Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/27

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Subject: RE: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...
From: "Kit McChesney" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0700

Jerry--

Oh, good. That's much better now. :)

Kit


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:21 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...

Kit

Right! 'Cause I didn't have my Thanksgiving morning cafe au lait
and croissant when I wrote it.

I am mellower now.

Jerry



Kit McChesney wrote:

> Jerry--
>
> Actually, you're not being defensive and sensitive. And I know you're not
> senile yet. I think--with all due respect--you're just being crotchedy!
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:38 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...
>
> Kit
>
> I certainly did. I do know a bit about screen settings and resolution,
> thank you. I am not senile yet.
>
> I do not have any Windows later than 98. I do not have the auto-
> sizing capabilities of Windows 2000 and on.
>
> I do NOT want to shut down and restart my computer just to see
> one picture.
>
> See, I am getting just as sensitive and defensive as you arty types :-)
>
> Jerry
>
> Kit McChesney wrote:
>
> > Jerry--
> >
> > Did it ever occur to you that your computer may be set to a different
> > resolution than the standard, and that it could be your own view that
> needs
> > to be resized? ;-)
> >
> > Kit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:03 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > With all that manipulation, its too bad that you did not size the photo
so
> > it could be seen without scrolling.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > "Richard F. Man" wrote:
> >
> > > Not digital bashing as I will probably pick one up some times next
year.
> > > Not digital worshipping either as I don't have one and just spent some
> $$$
> > > or an M6 and a Noct'.
> > >
> > > Anyway, some interesting experiments this last weekend. We have some
> > > costuming friends came by and took some shots outdoor in the park, and
> > then
> > > I set up the Studio flash setup in the house and shot some more
> pictures.
> > A
> > > friend was shooting the indoor flash pics with his Canon D60. He tends
> to
> > > only shoot at around 2000x1300 (~2.5 MP) instead of the full 6MP since
> he
> > > doesn't normally print them out. For this shoot, I used Astia 100F,
and
> as
> > > usual, I bulk scanned them (all 7 rolls) at around 2200x1400
resolution
> > and
> > > then down sampled them for web. If someone wants a print, I rescan
them
> at
> > > the full 4000dpi and print.
> > >
> > > Interesting things: first of all, the D60 color is more saturated
(which
> > is
> > > what he set it up for), and more importantly, more accurate. The
> NikonScan
> > > software tends to add blue when scanning but even looking at the
slides
> > > themselves, Astia 100F does not have the "punch" and some of the
> accuracy.
> > > Second, the difference with the details are pretty amazing. For
example:
> > > http://www.dmk26.net/tmp/IMG_0485.JPG
> > > vs.
> > > http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/tony/IMG018.jpg
> > >
> > > I did some minor USM sharpening for the web presentation (and a little
> > > unsharpening is always needed since I have ICE dust removal on), but
> it's
> > > not just sharper, but more details. We checked a few other pictures
and
> > the
> > > difference in the detail is consistent between the 2 cameras (actually
3
> > as
> > > I used both the M6 with the VC 75/2.5 and M7 w/ Summicron 50). I
didn't
> > use
> > > the 90/2 AA indoor since the flash sync is only 1/50 and I wasn't sure
I
> > > get good result with the 90/2 because of that, but no doubt the
> difference
> > > is there too. He used a Canon 50/1.8 prime, which is about 80 mm
> > equivalent
> > > on the D60. Since most 50mm lens are excellent, I think the difference
> in
> > > details is probably due to the resolution difference with the film vs.
> > > digital sensor.
> > >
> > > Now even though our resolutions are similar to start with, the fact
that
> > he
> > > did not use full 6MP may have an effect. It would be interesting to do
> > some
> > > comparison using full 6Mp resolution. We plan to do that at some pints
> in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,
> please
> > > use richard@imagecraft.com)
> > >
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