Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jerry-- Oh, good. That's much better now. :) Kit - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:21 AM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution... Kit Right! 'Cause I didn't have my Thanksgiving morning cafe au lait and croissant when I wrote it. I am mellower now. Jerry Kit McChesney wrote: > Jerry-- > > Actually, you're not being defensive and sensitive. And I know you're not > senile yet. I think--with all due respect--you're just being crotchedy! > > Kit > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:38 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution... > > Kit > > I certainly did. I do know a bit about screen settings and resolution, > thank you. I am not senile yet. > > I do not have any Windows later than 98. I do not have the auto- > sizing capabilities of Windows 2000 and on. > > I do NOT want to shut down and restart my computer just to see > one picture. > > See, I am getting just as sensitive and defensive as you arty types :-) > > Jerry > > Kit McChesney wrote: > > > Jerry-- > > > > Did it ever occur to you that your computer may be set to a different > > resolution than the standard, and that it could be your own view that > needs > > to be resized? ;-) > > > > Kit > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:03 PM > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution... > > > > Richard > > > > With all that manipulation, its too bad that you did not size the photo so > > it could be seen without scrolling. > > > > Jerry > > > > "Richard F. Man" wrote: > > > > > Not digital bashing as I will probably pick one up some times next year. > > > Not digital worshipping either as I don't have one and just spent some > $$$ > > > or an M6 and a Noct'. > > > > > > Anyway, some interesting experiments this last weekend. We have some > > > costuming friends came by and took some shots outdoor in the park, and > > then > > > I set up the Studio flash setup in the house and shot some more > pictures. > > A > > > friend was shooting the indoor flash pics with his Canon D60. He tends > to > > > only shoot at around 2000x1300 (~2.5 MP) instead of the full 6MP since > he > > > doesn't normally print them out. For this shoot, I used Astia 100F, and > as > > > usual, I bulk scanned them (all 7 rolls) at around 2200x1400 resolution > > and > > > then down sampled them for web. If someone wants a print, I rescan them > at > > > the full 4000dpi and print. > > > > > > Interesting things: first of all, the D60 color is more saturated (which > > is > > > what he set it up for), and more importantly, more accurate. The > NikonScan > > > software tends to add blue when scanning but even looking at the slides > > > themselves, Astia 100F does not have the "punch" and some of the > accuracy. > > > Second, the difference with the details are pretty amazing. For example: > > > http://www.dmk26.net/tmp/IMG_0485.JPG > > > vs. > > > http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/tony/IMG018.jpg > > > > > > I did some minor USM sharpening for the web presentation (and a little > > > unsharpening is always needed since I have ICE dust removal on), but > it's > > > not just sharper, but more details. We checked a few other pictures and > > the > > > difference in the detail is consistent between the 2 cameras (actually 3 > > as > > > I used both the M6 with the VC 75/2.5 and M7 w/ Summicron 50). I didn't > > use > > > the 90/2 AA indoor since the flash sync is only 1/50 and I wasn't sure I > > > get good result with the 90/2 because of that, but no doubt the > difference > > > is there too. He used a Canon 50/1.8 prime, which is about 80 mm > > equivalent > > > on the D60. Since most 50mm lens are excellent, I think the difference > in > > > details is probably due to the resolution difference with the film vs. > > > digital sensor. > > > > > > Now even though our resolutions are similar to start with, the fact that > > he > > > did not use full 6MP may have an effect. It would be interesting to do > > some > > > comparison using full 6Mp resolution. We plan to do that at some pints > in > > > the future. > > > > > > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. 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