Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]In a message dated 12/10/03 8:40:49 PM, KCassidy@asc.upenn.edu writes: << Ted Said: >What I really feel bad about is, this is a mixed audience of ladies, >and I'd hope some of us are still gentlemen who look upon this kind of >crap not for mixed company. It's called respect of a lady! i've stepped up to the plate every time i thought something sexist and innapropriate was being said in this list, at a time when _many_ of the good old boys on the lug thought there was nothing wrong with a little sexist joke between friends. which might show an interesting dichotomy in intergenerational gender propriety. some things that i view as sexist and patently offensive, someone brought up 20 years before me might see as good fun ribbing. and my ideas of feminism might seem bizarre in the other direction.>> Yes you have. As a woman, and probably, rarely a lady, I've appreciated it. : ) <<that said, my message contained _two_ warning as to the content at the other end of the links. i've enough faith in the women on the lug and persons of all genders to make up their own minds before clicking on a link that says "graphic sexual content". >> Agreed. And as a reasonably well functioning person, who still has some control over my brain, eye, hand coordination, I can read the warnings and then chose to navigate, or not, to the link. It's not like anyone forced me to participate. <we all, as photographers, have tremendous potential power to affect the world and the way that people view it. and i see a _lot_ of photography every day (especially on onemodelplace.com) that i find absolutely reprehensible and without thought. > HEY, now you've crossed the line! I have a (free) photographer listing on onemodelplace, #9608. It's how some of us artsy/fetishy/gothicky types in the little markets are able to hook up models we might not otherwise know of. <<... with much as some cheesecake glamour shot of a woman who got talked out of her clothes by someone who said he was a fashion photographer and all the girls do it.>> Yes, that sucks and is exploitation. Sort of like buying clothing made by slave labour or sending folks off to needless wars. But that's a LUG forum topic. I just wanted add, that there seems to be a rather strong anti-cheesecake, glamour sentiment happening on the LUG and I gotta say that there is an entirely legitimate, non-exploitive fetish/niche genre where the photos ARE intentionally cheesecake/glamourish (think updated Bettie Page and Bunny Yeager.) I mean, I'm not saying that one should, god forbid use a Leica to shoot glamour but not all of us drawn to the genre are de facto moronic beasts..... Kim - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html