RE: [Leica] Re: Inspired but arrested

["Sam Krneta" <skrneta@mindspring.com>]

Ted,

I thought he was taking pics of a jewelry store. That in itself is
suspicious.

Sam Krneta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-
> users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ted Grant
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:55 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Inspired but arrested
> 
> RUBEN BLĘDEL asked:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Inspired but arrested
> 
> 
> > This Mall thing of yours - when is it going to cover all of the US?
and
> > by the way is there a camera shop in the Mall ?  - if so - do you
have
> > to leave the Mall before you can try your purchase ? <<<<
> 
> Ruben,
> To make sure you understand what a mall is please allow me to make a
quick
> explanation as I'm sure from your comments you have no idea how they
> function.
> 
> Malls are privately owned business locations affording a great number
of
> business owners of independent shops and large corporate department
stores
> to be housed in enclosed  building locations usually on the outskirts
of
> many large cities in the USA and here in Canada.
> 
> These type of Malls are in many countries, also privately owned,
although
> they may not have the strict regulations we do in North America
regarding
> free roaming photographers access to the inside of the buildings.
> 
> In the US and Canada if you are a legitimate news-photographer on
> assignment
> to show the throngs of Christmas shoppers, then yes you can shoot all
you
> want... after clearing it with the public relations people for the
mall.
> Been there, done it many times. Why can the news guys do it and not
some
> guy
> with a camera?
> 
> Simple. One is a legitimate assignment for a news story about
Christmas
> shopping. But the guy just walking around with a camera playing HCB
can
> become a pain in the ass to the mall owners if the shooter ticks of a
> patron
> and the mall gets complaints "someone took my picture and who is this
> photographer and why is he taking my picture in your mall? My lawyer
will
> be
> calling!"
> 
> Now remember you are on private property and on private property there
are
> usually rules and regulations about using a camera, even in your
country
> I'm
> sure. So it's no big thing in the USA, Canada or in many countries
about
> the
> world.
> 
> Many of these malls do have camera stores, but it's no big deal about
> trying
> a camera outside the shop if some one is buying and wishes to try it
out
> side the store, however that's a major difference than walking about
> taking
> pictures of people shopping.
> 
> I might also add since the unfortunate incident of 9/11 there are many
> people and companies in the USA who are very, shall we say, "Touchy"
about
> photographs being taken of themselves and premises. ERGO: You maybe
> shooting
> in all innocents when you are challenged ..."Why are you taking
pictures?"
> Followed by any number of scary questions.  Generally meaningless
> questions
> by insecure security people trying to impress the boss. :-(
> 
> > you US LUGgers should put small stickers on the Malls were
photographers
> are asulted this way !
> > would not want to visit the US and end up in jail for bringing a
> camera!<<<
> 
> No need for stickers as most photographers understand one cannot take
> pictures in a mall without permission. However, if one were a visitor
from
> another country a few pictures will hardly get one in trouble if it's
> pointed out they are tourists.
> 
> And as far as being put in jail for using a camera in America or
Canada
> it's
> highly unlikely. So come along sometime to North America and have a
> wonderful picture taking time. :-) Trust me there aren't any really
> magical
> pictures in a mall so forget them. ;-)
> 
> ted
> 
> 
> 
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