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Subject: Re: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript
From: "Jack Herron" <jackherron@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:54:34 -0700
References: <004a01c40146$3cd50b30$600110ac@CCA4A5EF37E11E>

I concur with B.D.

Jack C. Herron
8118 E. 20th St.
Tucson, AZ 85710
520 885-6933
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript


> Mark - Given Joseph's experience and yours, might I suggest that it is
> time to post this person's name on the LUG as a warning to all LUGers,
> rather than continue to protect him by only revealing it on a 'need to
> know basis' - which really means 'after you've been burned?'
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Joseph Yao
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:19 PM
> To: Leica User Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript
> 
> 
> I had a similar experience with the same individual three years ago.  He
> advertised a couple of 'mint' lenses on the LUG but when they arrived,
> they were full of haze and were certainly less than mint.  He refused to
> reimburse me for his inaccurate description/repair costs.  I lost a few
> dollars, but learned a lesson about this person.  He lost a lot a lot
> more.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> 
> on 3/3/04 10:08 PM, Mark Theken at marktheken@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> > The message that follows was returned this morning undelivered.  I am 
> > leaving for Europe tomorrow for 3 weeks and need to conclude this 
> > matter as I anticipate only limited access to the internet while I am
> > traveling.  I offer my sincere thanks to those who
> > expressed concern and shared information about the
> > seller over the past several weeks.
> > I will confirm the name of the seller should you wish
> > to contact me privately.
> > Dear Exxxxxx:
> > It is incomprehensible to me that you refused to
> > acknowledge my good faith efforts to reconcile the
> > transaction you made with me following your FS post on
> > the LUG web site.  Although I stand to lose
> > $3000-$4000 on this transaction due to your
> > misrepresentation of M3 993XXX, I think your loss will
> > be much greater over time.  You staked your reputation
> > as a honorable dealer with the members of the LHSA and
> > LUG communities.  Numerous email messages and
> > telephone conversations bring me to realize my bad
> > judgment in making a good faith transaction with you.
> > The world of Leica enthusiasts and collectors, as we
> > all know, is a very small one.
> > It is beyond the scope of my understanding how you can
> > justify compromising your integrity for the financial
> > gain you realized in this transaction.
> > Sincerely,
> > Mark Theken    
> > 
> > 
> > 
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