Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/03/29

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Subject: [Leica] M7 Digital (real one!! :-) ) in LFI
From: rclark01 at comcast.net (Robert Clark)
Date: Mon Mar 29 14:03:59 2004
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Hey Frank:
Do you travel with the team to fly-away races?  I'll be in Montreal and 
Indy...it'd be nice to meet you and say hello (of course, if you do go 
to the fly-away races, I doubt you have much time.)
Robert Clark
Lancaster, PA

Frank Dernie wrote:

> No, I am just a design engineer with 30+ years of experience and 
> nobody has broken the laws of physics yet. There are some 
> ameliorations possible - particularly if standards are lowered. Until 
> there is a sensor with a planar surface which needs no additional 
> microlenses or filter it will not be possible to use all M lenses 
> equally well, or any other for that matter it is just that lenses very 
> close to the sensor exacerbate the problem. It is quite noticeable, 
> and well documented in Chasseur d'Images that even with slr lenses 
> there is a significant difference in "match" between different lenses 
> and cameras. I do not have the article to hand, but one of the L Canon 
> lenses matched the EOS 10D much better than the EOS 1Ds. It is obvious 
> when you look at a ray trace that this must happen with a layered 
> sensor, it is merely a question whether the shortcomings are 
> acceptable or not at the magnifications used.
> I guess Leica thought not but decided to respond to Epson in case the 
> level of quality was acceptable to customers (even if the Leica 
> engineers were not satisfied themselves). Maybe there is a new type of 
> planar sensor in the offing that is secret at present. I still wish 
> they would make a replacement door for any M with sensor and contacts 
> to a base with the electronics in - I would be happy to cock the 
> shutter manually.
> Frank
>
>
> On 27 Mar 2004, at 19:02, Leicajay@aol.com wrote:
>
>> <<In a message dated 03/27/2004 1:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com writes:
>> I doubt there is suddenly a technical solution to suit all lens designs
>> since each M lens has a unique set of angles of incidence to the
>> focussed plane - see Erwin's book. Perhaps by accepting lower standards
>> and using APS sized sensor the worst of the problems can be neglected.>>
>>
>>
>> Oh ye of little faith in Leica ;>)
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