Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/04/06

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Subject: [Leica] a new one
From: jerryleh at pacbell.net (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Tue Apr 6 19:51:17 2004
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Bd

Is that a promise?

Jerry

"B. D. Colen" wrote:

> God or Brian will strike me down for falling for this...but I really
> can't help myself:
>
> The only reason that the sale and distribution of tobacco products - the
> carrier of a drug as addictive as heroin - is legal in this country is
> that the tobacco companies have spent literally billions on totally
> false advertising and on buying politicians.
>
> Sooner or later we will come to our senses, pay every tobacco farmer
> precisely what he or she is now making from growing tobacco to grow
> alternative crops or grow nothing, we will pay all tobacco company
> workers - not executives - their current weekly pay until they retire -
> and we will outlaw the, import, export, sale and distribution of tobacco
> products.
>
> Ah, you say, but prohibition was tried and didn't work. Right. But how
> many smoker would continue to smoke if they had to pay cocaine-like
> prices for cigarettes, and couldn't smoke them anywhere except in their
> homes with the shades drawn - in other words, if they could only smoke
> between waking and leaving for work, and after returning from work?
> Virtually no one. And that would be the end of the entire smoking
> controversy.
>
> As to people having sex with other people who are diseased. With rare
> exception, most people don't knowingly have sex with people with
> diseases. As to eating fats, yah, people will do that and people will
> ruin their health. But there is a big difference - normal eating is
> essential for life; but there is no such thing as normal smoking.
>
> Face it - people who smoke are drug addicts. And unless you favor the
> legalization of all currently illegal narcotic substances, you're being
> a hypocrite to whine about smoker's rights and the 'persecution' of
> smokers.
>
> End of diatribe.
>
> Last word I will write on this subject.
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Sam
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:38 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] a new one
>
> NYC has become insanely non-smoking. I have a friend who was given a
> ticket for smoking outdoors, above-ground on property owned by the
> subway system. I haven't smoked in 25 years, and that's my choice, but I
>
> hate when busy-bodies legislate their will to the masses because they
> think they are too stupid to think for themselves. To my mind, we are
> going to drop dead from something, and if you want it so, it might as
> well be from smoking. What I hate even more is when you make a statement
>
> like I just have, and some sneaky b*stard says "It's not fair for
> smokers to cause health insurance rates to increase."  These are the
> same people who support the right to eat anything you want and have sex
> with partners who have incurable, communicable sexual diseases. Foolish
> driving, eating lard out of the can, and sex with diseased partners all
> raise health insurance rates. And what kind of morons would allow their
> lives to be led by insurances companies? Storm their offices, apprehend
> their personnel and tie them up in the public square for children to
> throw rotten things at.
>
> All while documenting the events with the fine Leica camera system on
> b&w, of course.
>
> Sam S
>
> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>
> >Good one :). But in fact it's one of the many smokers in Antwerp,
> >Belgium, in one of those pubs, like there are so many in town: smoking
> >is still allowed almost everywhere. This pub -caf? as we call it- is
> >called "Den Engel" (the angel) and is next to the town hall. It has
> >remained unchanged the last 50 years or so. At the end of the day,
> >around 5 PM, town officials stroll in and have one of those wonderful
> >Belgian beers and talk about the fatiguing day they had.
> >---
> >
> >
> >>From: "Douglas M. Sharp" <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net>
> >>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> >>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:24:19 +0200
> >>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] a new one
> >>
> >>Is that the last Irish smoker, emigrated to the UK ?
> >>Very nice pub shot - looks like a pub I used to go to in the East End
> >>of London, just off East India Dock Road. Douglas
> >>
> >>philippe.orlent@ldv.be schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>cheers:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/image-63837.html
> >>>
> >>>Comments as always very welcome,
> >>>Philippe A. Orlent
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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