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Subject: [Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Wed Apr 28 14:48:35 2004
References: <BCEKKGNGDPMOIPMEJONBKEEFEIAA.phong@doan-ltd.com> <opr66rrts4ubp1d4@mail.earthlink.net>

Beasts want to be on top of every hill , king of the world .
There is no harm in that is there?
We all want to say look mammy what i have done occasionally don,t we?
Rule the world with a magic feather?
simon



| No, it doesn't explain why someone takes a snap of Skipper and Sissy,
but
| theoretically people on this list think of themselves as
"photographers."
|
| And, no, I would not flunk her because she had one, or even several,
| photos in her project that weren't good picks.
| But she showed the photo in question independently, as her PAW for the
| past week - students are required to produce one photo a week that can
be
| viewed as telling a story - and that one does. In terms of her
project, it
| is one of several showing that one of the 'clients' at the center was
| upset, and several  people, including his 'girlfriend,' whose hand was
in
| the photo, was one of those people...
|
| But the point I was trying to make, is that I think she hit the
proverbial
| nail on the head in terms of why "photographers" take photos - they
take
| them for the same reason that mountain climbers give for climbing
| mountains - because they're there!
| :-)
|
|
|
| On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:33:14 -0400, Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com> wrote:
|
| > B.D.,
| >
| > That is only partially true, and I suppose
| > more so for "photographers".  The majority
| > of the people who take photos are not
| > photographers.  They just want a snapshot
| > of someone, or something that interest
| > them.  Even I do this sometimes, though
| > I would never show the result to another
| > photographer, especially on the LUG.  :-)
| >
| > Anyway, your story raises and answers
| > the question of why your student takes
| > that photo.  It does not address why
| > she chose that photo to show.  Clearly,
| > if it does not fit her project, or the story
| > she wants to tell, it would not be included,
| > no matter how great the photo is.  Otherwise
| > you would flunk her, wouldn't you ?   :-)
| >
| > - Phong
| >
| >
| >
| > B. D. Colen wrote:
| >>
| >> About 'our' motivation to photograph.
| >>
| >> This past Saturday, my students were showing roughs of their
semester
| >> projects. One young woman has been shooting at a center for the
| >> developmentally disabled - aw, hell, the retarded - focusing on an
art
| >> program they have. She showed an image that was a close up of two
| >> people's hands awkwardly touching - a striking image - and my TA
noted
| >> that this image was a good one for us to think about in terms of
| >> addressing the question 'when is photo journalism/documentary
| >> photography, voyeurism?' So we talked about it for a while and then
I
| >> asked the student, 'why did you take this photo?' Her response:
| >>
| >> "I thought it would be a great photo!" No bullshit. No 'I want to
help
| >> people.' No BS about 'understanding.' Just the bottom line - she's
a
| >> photographer, and the image leapt out at her. And that, in my
humble
| >> opinion, is what IT really is all about.
| >>
| >> We may take photos for various economic, personal, political,
| >> journalistic reasons. But if we really are the beast called
| >> photographers, it call comes down to "I thought it would be a great
| >> photo!"
| >
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Replies: Reply from bdcolen at mit.edu (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
In reply to: Message from phong at doan-ltd.com (Phong) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
Message from bdcolen at mit.edu (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)