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Subject: [Leica] Best Lenses To Take To Germany/Poland
From: DouglasMSharp at netscape.net (Douglas M. Sharp)
Date: Fri May 21 02:27:50 2004
References: <OFA8A1F258.A46D6CE6-ON86256E98.00574F09-86256E98.0057B70A@crnotes2.rockwellcollins.com> <40AD7C02.A092BFE1@chello.nl>

Gene,
I agree with Nathan

Nathan Wajsman schrieb:

>Hi Gene,
>
>I would pass on the 560, simply because I cannot imagine what you would
>photograph in Germany and Poland that requires this focal length. 
>
If you really NEED something a bit longer, the quality of the 2x or 1.4x 
converters is  excellent and the saving
in the weight of what you have to cart around is fantastic.

>The ones in Germany are much better in terms of
>selection, but given that the dollar is only worth 80-85 Euro cents, you
>are unlikely to find any real bargains, even with the VAT refund on
>departure. 
>
Keep an eye open for the second hand departments of , for example, 
Ringfoto stores, every now and again
you find things being sold on a commision basis, pricehaving been fixed 
by the private seller, these are nearly always
labeled "Kommission" and are sometimes very reasonably priced. I picked 
up a mint, but not boxed, R7 "Partner Aktion" for around 1000
euros not all that long ago. The articles labeled "Gelegenheit" are 
usually stuff that has been traded in for something else, and the price 
is fixed by the dealer.
 If you happen to be in Northern Germany look out for a chain of photo 
stores called Photo Dose, batteries and films are quite a bit cheaper in 
their shops.
There is quite a flood of s/h stuff at the moment and, if you like 
Rollei 35s, the price has fallen quite considerably in the last couple 
of years.

As to your lens and stock being taken for a rifle - it is very unlikely 
that either in Germany or Poland any police officer is going to turn
round and fill you full of lead, the police here ask politely what it is 
( and then they shoot you :-) ) Even in Italy I've only had pleasant
encouters re police and photography. The only places where you might be 
accosted are Government Buildings, Airports and the like.
Security people at airports hardly even bother to run detailed checks on 
photographic equipment , they can nearly always recognise
what it is on their screening machines. It's a totally different matter 
with portable computers, though what logging in and showing them that
they work proves I'm not quite sure.

Over here is a "foreign" country but still reasonably civilised.
Douglas ( from Hannover, Germany)

>Nathan
>
>grduprey@rockwellcollins.com wrote:
>  
>
>>Well let's put it this way  i plan on taking all of my lenses and 3 leicas
>>on our trip to Germany and Poland in December, but Should I/or is it wise
>>to take the 560/6.8 Telyt?  I ask this as it could be mistaken by one of
>>the local authorities as a rifle, especially if i use the shoulder stock,
>>which is probably the best way to steady this lens.  i would not want them
>>to shoot first and ask questions later, but this is my only really long
>>lens.
>>
>>Gene
>>
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>>Ted - Don't apologize! Don't back down! Don't modify your response!
>>
>>I missed the original post, so I don't know who I'm insulting here...But
>>allow me to add to the insult...
>>
>>As folks who have been on the LUG for any length of time know all too
>>well, the "what lens
>>should I take to...(Honolulu, Austin, Paris, Easter Island, my
>>mother-in-law's 8th wedding) is a perennial). And as Ted sagely knows,
>>it is unanswerable - even if people who have been where you are going
>>know what you own.
>>
>>IF the asker has ever used his or her camera, he or she knows what he or
>>she likes to shoot, and knows what lenses he or she needs to shoot it.
>>You do street shooting with 28 to 50s - then that's what you need? You
>>like to shoot flowers with a macro? You need a macro. You specialize in
>>long shots of people or distant buildings, trees, rocks or barns, you
>>need what ever you shoot them with at home. Good Dog! said the dyslexic,
>>how can this be such a difficult question? And as for those who will
>>say, 'well I'm going to Easter Island for the first time and I don't
>>know what I'll find there' - either you're going there precisely BECAUSE
>>you know what you'll find there and you've long wanted to see it, or
>>you're being sent there on business, and know nothing about the place -
>>in which case you can Google it (Plug for Brian) and find out more about
>>it in 15 minutes than our parents would have found out spending a day in
>>the library.
>>
>>Geeeeeeseeee Louiseeeeee~!
>>
>>B. D.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>Ted Grant
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:42 AM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Best Lenses To Take To Honolulu
>>
>>David asked:
>>Subject: [Leica] Best Lenses To Take To Honolulu
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I am planning to visit Honolulu and wonder which lenses will best suit
>>>      
>>>
>>>the shootings there.  It is my first time to visit there and have no
>>>idea
>>>      
>>>
>>which
>>    
>>
>>>focal length will serve me better.  Any suggestion will be
>>>appreciated. Either M or R will do.<<<
>>>      
>>>
>>You asked so here's my answer from the experience of shooting there on
>>several assignments !
>>
>>R8 body:
>>
>>15 - 21 - 35 - 100 macro - 280 2.8 and a 400 2.8! 1.4 and 2X extenders!
>>If you think I'm kidding......... I'm not. You asked what lenses to
>>take, so there you go!! And they are the lenses I used and would use
>>again if I were going there on a shoot!.
>>
>>An option in case that's a little heavy duty, take the following zoom
>>combination :
>>21 - 35 ....   35 - 70 and ...... 80 - 200mm f 4.0.  With that
>>combination
>>you pretty well have your ass and most subjects covered. Other than a
>>super long tele shot. And if you are only taking the zooms make sure you
>>take a 2X extender for use with the 80-200 zoom, then you've got at
>>least a 400mm reach if needed.
>>
>>Oh yes and a 100 macro.
>>
>>Lenses for the M7 take these:  three bodies!  OK ok 2!
>>15 CV .... 21 f 2.8 ...... 35 1.2 CV and definately a 50 f 1.0 Noctilux
>>in case you'll be shooting in the twilight zone of the evening with 100
>>colour slide film. I rarely use anything longer than the 50 on an M.
>>
>>Why ask us what lenses to take when :
>>
>>A/ we don't have a clue what you own!
>>B/ We don't have a clue what you shoot!
>>C/ We don't have a clue what time of day you intend on shooting. D/ We
>>don't............... oh forget it.........!
>>
>>Actually the answer should be .......... take every damn lens you own!
>>And then some!
>>
>>ted
>>
>>Oh hell I know I'm in the glue again for that answer! But really!
>>
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In reply to: Message from grduprey at rockwellcollins.com (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com) ([Leica] Best Lenses To Take To Honolulu)
Message from n.wajsman at chello.nl (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Best Lenses To Take To Germany/Poland)