[Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos

[s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)]

\i,m suprised by the anti war statements made on this list .I can clearly
remember the days when the campaign was still debated and the bellicose
sentiment in this group.Quite apparent to a European opposer like me.Now
that you have your troops there shouldn,t you be a bit more supportive?
simon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos


> You're preaching to the choir on this one, Phong - I made the point I
> made because AFTER the WMD excuse was shown to be a lie, then they
> switched to the new excuse. So I am saying, okay, let's look at the new
> excuse...in light of Abu Ghraib. But you are absolutely right about the
> government lying to us about going to war. What I'd like to know is what
> the vote in Congress would have been without the WMD lies...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Phong
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos
>
>
> B. D. Colen wrote:
> > The point some people seem to miss in all this is that, now that
> > eliminating WMDs is no longer being given as the cause for this war,
> > bringing American Democracy and values to the Arab world IS being
> > given as the rationale. So the question is this: ...
>
> Speaking for myself, I would rather not switch topics.
> The fact of the matter to me is that I was told the imminent
> threat of WMD _was_ the reason we went to war with Iraq.
> You switch topics, and you let the current administration
> evade the fact that they _lied_ to us.  War is horror,
> but we went to war for a lie and a gallon of gas ?
>
> I hate to say this, but, Vietnam again, anyone ?  The
> government lied to us about going to war.  I don't want us
> to forget that.  I don't want them to forget that.
>
> - Phong
>
> P.S. I, for sure, know the dubious benefit of some attemots
> to bring American Democracy to the 3rd world.  While
> I cherish the American Democracy, I deplore the way
> we very hypocritically use it as a shield for other gains.
>
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