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Subject: [Leica] Leica/Digital - heresy?
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Aug 12 13:20:38 2004

No reflex - including the R8-9, which has a really terrific VF -
compares to an M. ;-)
And with any DSLR that has less than a full 35mm size sensor there will
be some initial viewfinder shock. But you do get used to it pretty
quickly.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Scott McLoughlin
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:27 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica/Digital - heresy?


Yes, I agree with you there. I presume the better
bodies have better VF's. But, wow! At quite a
cost, at least in Nikon land.

I do have an N80 that my g'friend uses. I haven't
done a side by side with the D70 yet, but with
the N80, while dim, I don't recall ever having that
VF "huh?" reaction :-)  I'll do a quick test later and
report back.

In any case, none of the above are quite as nice as looking through a
good bright line VF :-) 

In general, I like SLRs for DOF preview with longer
lenses, and that's about it.  SLR's are pretty darn good for that kind
of thing! (Macro to, I guess, but I don't do that).

Otherwise, RF it is for me. But then, I'm not trying to
make a living with photography, no deadlines, no
customers, no real economies to worry about, etc.

Scott

B. D. Colen wrote:

>I think that to be 'fair,' Scott, you should go look at the 
>top-of-the-line Nikon DSLR or the Canon EOS MarkII, Oly E-1 - and see 
>how you feel about those. Keep in mind that while the D70 can produce 
>excellent images, it's the DSLR entry point for Nikon.
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of

>Scott McLoughlin
>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:53 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica/Digital - heresy?
>
>
>Exactly. It's weird. You get an SLR, and you
>just expect a certain view. I stuck a 35/2 on it
>and took a peak around, took a few snaps. It
>looked odd, but I figured that was just the crop
>factor.
>
>So today, I put a 50/1.8 on my FM3a to do
>a quick comparison, and then it became obvious
>to me. The D70 image is really tiny by comparison.
>Darker as well, but it was the VF image size that
>really struck me.
>
>Pretty disappointing. Now, I love my little Rollei
>AFM35 P&S, and even my Oly Epic.  And both of
>these have a really squinty VF.  Sure, they're nice
>little P&S cameras.
>
>But it was kind of a disappointing "cognitive dissonance"
>to see such a small VF image in the D70. Just didn't
>match up with my expectations of an SLR VF, I guess
>(even a rather low end SLR).
>
>Anyway, it is what it is. I don't want to dis it. I read everywhere 
>that for the price, it's a pretty good performer
>- other than the VF :-)  So I imagine I'll adapt and come
>to appreciate its finer features.
>
>It's plastic but I got Ritz's "you drop it, we'll fix it" warranty. 
>They've made good on this - very good - for me on another camera in the

>past  - no shipping or shipping charges, no questions asked. Just 
>brought it into the store, and the returned repair sheet showed a very 
>thorough check and overhaul I didn't even expect.
>
>So I'm not too worried about its build for my own
>toying around purposes.
>
>I wonder if the D1X and D2H have nicer "real"
>viewfinders?
>
>Scott
>
>
>Feli di Giorgio wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 11:31, robertmeier@usjet.net wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Scott,
>>>
>>>What specifically is wrong with the viewfinder? (D70)
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>It's on the "squinty" side and not particularly bright.
>>
>>
>>Feli
>>
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Replies: Reply from george at imagist.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Leica/Digital - heresy?)
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