Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> S/N To Date 03/15/04. > This is a list of all reported M6HM (0.85) Classic Serial numbers by LUG > members, Ebay Sales, and referrals from individuals from Stephen Gandy's > WEB Pages...... www.cameraquest.com > Total is 239 cameras out of the entire production of 3130, as documented > by Leica. > The list is hardly complete but should be used as a guide. > The notation of US or Hong Kong etc. is the country the camera was FIRST > purchased in. > > I have an email from Leica AG, Mr. Stefan Danial-Leica Camera AG Produkt > Management, M-System. > That email states there was a total production of M6HM of 3,130 units. I > have confirmed that report with him directly. > > Standard Engraving as engraved on the back of the camera > Line 1 ?LEICA CAMERA? > Lne 2 ?MADE IN GERMANY? > > 1,915,038 Germany, Standard Engraving > > 1,917,990 Europe > > 2,063,489 Europe Standard Engraving... Calumet England > > 2.184,373 US Standard Engraving ... Titanium .. VF Modified..... THIS IS > NOT A FACTORY CAMERA > > 2,284,711 Germany Standard Engraving ( warranty card declares Classic > 0.85) > > 2,296,539 Hong Kong > > 2,414,433 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,414,454 US Standard Engraving > 2,414,499 Asia Standard Engraving > 2,414,565 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,414,591 US Standard Engraving > 2,414,629 Canada Standard Engraving > 2,414,683 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,414,691 US Standard Engraving > 2,414,835 Canada Standard Engraving > 2,414,841 US Standard Engraving > 2,414,849 Asia Standard Engraving > > > 2,415,034 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,092 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,207 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,252 US > 2.415,277 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,317 Asia Standard Engraving > 2,415,322 US > 2,415,337 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,388 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,391 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,467 HK Standard Engraving > 2,415,483 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,565 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,570 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,615 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,617 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,619 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,628 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,688 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,729 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,852 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,868 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,880 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,893 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,415,922 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,946 Europe > 2,415,974 US Standard Engraving > 2,415,988 Asia Standard Engraving > > There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,416,000 and 2,422,999. > > 2,423,016 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,034 Australia Standard Engraving > 2,423,040 US > > 2,423,068 Europe engraved LEICA CAMERA only > > 2,423,084 US Engraving on back says: ?LEICA CAMERA GMBH? > underneath this, ?Made in GERMANY? > > 2,423,097 US Engraving same as # 2,423,084 > > 2,423,108 Europe (?) Standard Engraving > 2,423,195 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,200 US (?) Standard Engraving > 2,423,207 US Standard Engraving > 2.423.237 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,247 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,248 Europe > 2,423,249 Europe, Standard Engraving. > 2,423,255 Canada Standard Engraving > 2,423,271 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,307 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,308 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,327 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,335 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,346 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,373 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,378 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,398 Canada Standard Engraving > 2,423,399 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,408 US Standard Engraving > 2,423.423 US > 2,423,425 US Standard Engraving > > 2,423,476 Hong Kong Engraving on back says: ?LEICA CAMERA GMBH? > underneath this, ?Made in GERMANY? > Same as # 2,423,084 > > 2,423,519 Hong Kong Engraving on back says: ?LEICA CAMERA GMBH? > underneath this, ?Made in GERMANY? > Same as # 2,423,084 > > 2,423,533 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,564 US(?) Standard Engraving > 2,423,566 US(?) Standard Engraving > 2,423,574 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,582 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,592 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,423,609 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,616 Asia Standard Engraving > 2,423,661 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,664 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,680 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,733 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,775 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,801 US Standard Engraving > 2,423,975 US Standard Engraving > > 2,424,024 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,092 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,424,148 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,176 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,275 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,331 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,471 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,475 > 2,424,512 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,376 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,500 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,424,647 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,633 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,665 US > 2,424,673 US(?) Standard Engraving > 2,424,702 US Standard Engraving > 2,424,773 Asia Standard Engraving > 2,424,785 Europe > 2,424,927 US Standard Engraving > > 2,425,000 US Standard Engraving > > There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,425,000 and 2,431,000 > > 2,431,315 US Standard Engraving > 2,431,657 US Standard Engraving > 2,431,765 US Standard Engraving > 2,431,816 US Standard Engraving > 2,431,829 US Standard Engraving > 2,431,875 HK Standard Engraving > 2,431,948 Europe Standard Engraving > > 2,432,008 US (?) Standard Engraving > 2,432,091 Asia Standard Engraving > 2,432,109 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,432,406 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,432,454 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,432,500 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,509 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,654 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,691 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,692 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,714 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,733 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,819 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,878 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,899 US Standard Engraving > 2,432,907 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,432,986 US (?) Standard Engraving > > 2,433,062 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,067 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,094 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,108 US > 2,433,124 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,145 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,148 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,155 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,163 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,221 HK Standard Engraving > 2,433,222 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,231 US > 2,433,243 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,253 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,265 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,302 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,303 US > 2,433,325 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,389 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,410 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,437 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,470 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,480 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,535 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,566 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,586 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,620 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,633 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,650 UK Standard Engraving > 2,433,654 US Standard Engraving > 2,433,669 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,433,675 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,795 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,433,798 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > > There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,434,000 and 2,456,000 > > 2,456,023 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > 2,456,225 Europe .... Reported Stolen in Netherlands > > There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,456,300 and 2,463,000 > > These were sold in late 1998. > 2,463,390 US Standard Engraving > 2,463,890 Asia Standard Engraving > 2.463,906 US > 2,463,909 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,463,935 US Standard Engraving > 2,463,940 US Standard Engraving > 2,463,944 US Standard Engraving > 2,463,962 US Standard Engraving > 2,463,981 US Standard Engraving > > 2,464,003 US Standard Engraving > 2,464,011 US Standard Engraving > 2,464,026 US Standard Engraving > 2,464,030 US Standard Engraving > 2,464,039 Europe Standard Engraving > 2,464,040 US (?) Standard Engraving > 2,464,077 US Standard Engraving > 2,464,090 US Standard Engraving > > 2,470,159 Europe > > 2,593,063 Canada Standard Engraving ( Is this a TTL?) > > If you see your camera listed with an incorrect S/N .... like I bungled a > few digits..... please email me > If you have a camera or see a camera with a serial nuumber not listed > here, please email me. I am very happy to receive more, new data. > Note: Capitalization is as printed on the camera > > A copy of these numbers is archived at Stephen Gandy?s site: > http://www.cameraquest.com/ > > > Conclusions ( My opinion ): > Leica produces cameras in production batches ( maybe I should say they > produce serial numbers in batches). You may find this expected, but it > was a good for me to get some hard data on the issue. I do not expect to > find random S/N. > There were pre-production units that went to Canada and Asia. Maybe > elsewhere. S/N were random. Theses are most likely modified M6 .72 > classic bodies. > > They substituted older style covers marked with the Leica Camera GMBH > engraving in 2 runs. These are exceedingly rare units.. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leica has told me that there were a total of 3130 camera made. I have the > documented serial numbers from what looks to me like a total of over 6,000 > cameras. My thinking is as follows... > > Some prototypes with "random" S/N > 2,414,399 to 2,414,999... At least 600 > 2,415,000 to 2,415,999 1000 > 2,423,000 to 2,425,000 2000 > 2,431,000 to 2,431,999 At least 300, possibly more. S/N are not too > detailed in this area. > 2,432,000 to 2,433,999 2000 > 2,463,800 to 2,464,100 300 > > I can not state for certain that Leica told us the correct number, nor can > I at all somehow verify my theories. I can only report the data and my > conclusions. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The last recorded number that is available to me is 2,470,159. It is > claimed to be from the last production run. > > There are a few cameras out there that were user modified .72 into .85 > cameras. I have been told be several users that their cameras were so > modified. As I can, I have identified those cameras in this list. There > will doubtless be more cameras modified in the future. Without the > warranty card, it is almost imposible to tell the difference, for the > average layman. > > I will continue to keep this list and modify the assumptions made about > the total production run. > > Thank You. > May the Light be with you. > Long Live Leica M Cameras! > > Frank Filippone > red735I@earthlink.net