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Subject: [Leica] The story of my detention by the NYPD
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Thu Sep 9 09:55:23 2004

 Wow that is SICK, I am shocked.
Frank

--- Kyle Cassidy <KCassidy@asc.upenn.edu> wrote: 
> Marc dared me with his strong suspicion:
> 
> >Without knowing anything about your detention, I
> strongly suspect that you
> >are being more than a bit coy by claiming that the
> reasons for your
> >detention were "inexplicable". 
> 
> >If you dare, give us your version of just what
> occurred which led to your
> >detention.
> 
> So here it is.
> 
> I'd been hired by Silicon Alley, to photograph the
> Republican National
> Convention. Silicon Alley is primarily focused on
> technology so they were
> interested in what the Republicans are going to do
> for the technology
> industry. I was on "radio row" on the third floor of
> Madison Square Garden
> -- Imagine a bunch of booths lined up along walls,
> each with a talk radio
> host in it screaming into a microphone. It's sort of
> like that. (I was
> between Sean Hannity and G. Gordon Liddy) Now, drop
> into this room a random
> list of political celeberties who walk from booth to
> booth being
> interviewed. Radio producers wander down the halls,
> looking for people who
> will add life to their show, then drag them over to
> their booth. I ran
> around with a camera and photographed this. 
> 
> Here's a photo of Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott:
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_4279.jpg
> 
> 
> The delegates arrive around 6:00 and I trundle out
> to the floor to
> photograph people in silly hats and the speakers,
> most of the crew from
> Silicon Alley took that time to edit interviews and
> file stories. Between
> the morning when everybody shows up and the evening
> when the convention
> starts, there's a lot of dead time, it was dead on
> Tuesday so Susan, the
> reporter I was working with, and I decided to go
> find some delegates on the
> street and interview them. We figured the place to
> find them would be Ground
> Zero. So we jumped on a train. Down at the WTC site
> we didn't find any
> delegates, at least none wearing their credentials,
> but we found a few
> anti-bush people milling about. So Susan interviewed
> the Iraqi Veterans
> Against The War and a few other people. 
> 
> http://www.siliconalley.net/rnc/831/vets1.jpg
> 
> We spotted a guy carrying a big sign that said "VOTE
> FOR RALPH NADER" we
> weren't sure if he was a Republican or a Nader
> supporter. So we went over
> and started talking to him. He told us he was about
> to start marching, but
> we could walk along and talk with him. 
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3745.jpg
> 
> 
> There were about two hundred people, about twice as
> many more turned out not
> to be marchers, but rather simply tourists milling
> about ground zero. As the
> group I was in crossed Church street (the first 50
> steps of the march), a
> policeman with a bull horn announced "This march
> does not have a permit. If
> you break any New York traffic laws, you will be
> subject to arrest." My take
> on this was "do not j-walk, do not stand in the
> street, do not block
> traffic, don't do any hippy-civil-disobedience-type
> stuff." We crossed with
> the light and Susan was still talking to the Nader
> guy and I'm still taking
> pictures of him. The time from us meeting him up to
> this point was probably
> about 45 seconds.
> 
> We were about 1/2 way down the block when bicycle
> cops pulled up along side
> us and blocked our way.  An officer in a white shirt
> ran past in the street
> shouting "Everybody on this block is under arrest,
> they're all under
> arrest!" I walk away from where Susan and the Nader
> guy are still talking to
> see what's going on in front of us. 
> 
> One of the marchers tried to work out a solution
> with the police, but it was
> clear they were having none of it. 
> 
> "I don't know what we're being arrested for. Tell us
> what you want us to do,
> and we'll do it," he said. The police didn't say
> anything.
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3751.jpg
> 
> It was at this point I realized things were getting
> serious and they weren't
> going to just let people go. I asked the policeman
> immediately in front of
> me if I could leave, since I was press. He shook his
> head and said "no". 
> 
> Note baffled Reuters photographer trying to figure
> out why we're under
> arrest:
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3750.jpg
> 
> And baffled dude with a Leica wondering the same
> thing:
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3748.jpg
> 
> Also note not-very-blocked sidewalk.
> 
> Great. I'd been in New York eight hours and was
> already being detained. I
> figured I was going to spend the next week in jail
> in nyc, which is not what
> I wanted. As far as I could tell, nobody had done
> anything illegal. Susan
> came up to where I was standing and I asked another
> cop the same question.
> Susan waved our press credentials, he looked around
> for someone to ask,
> apparently there was nobody. Finally after about 10
> minutes, he let us go,
> moving his bike back about a foot he said "go
> ahead." We hurried across the
> street where the rest of the media was gathered. 
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3866.jpg
> 
> Police warned the media not to step out in the
> street or we could be
> arrested. We stayed on the sidewalk and watched as
> the protesters were
> surrounded by orange portable fencing and one by one
> flex-cuffed and taken
> away.
> 
> Photos of the dangerous protesters being taken away:
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3977.jpg
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3986.jpg
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3997.jpg
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3901.jpg
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2004/rnc/aDSC_3930.jpg
> 
> Word later that night was that the arrests were for
> walking more than two
> abreast on a sidewalk. However, delegates, press,
> and various others were
> walking more than two abreast with impunity right
> outside madison square
> garden when I got back:
> 
>
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/crowd.jpg
> 
> So ... Having been there, I think the detentions and
> arrests were
> inexplicable. 
> 
> > The NYPD were on guard:  one of their
> >members was put into the hospital in critical
> condition by a battering from
> >one of the "peaceful protestors", after all, and
> that, alone, would put
> >every officer on the beat on guard.  And, on this,
> I am on their side:  the
> >right to protest does NOT include the right to
> violence, a minor factoid
> >generally ignored by the US media.
> 
> I thought you were a libertarian! (and for the
> record, "peaceful protesters"
> don't batter anyone. Thugs do and they should be
> arrested, charged, and
> prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
> 
> 
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