Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/02/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ok, man bites camera company. S. Dimitrov On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:52 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > No, Slobodan - It's man bites corporation; the camera's terrific. :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Slobodan Dimitrov > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:47 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] LEICA could be clever > > > I think in B.D.'s case, it's more like man bites camera. > S. Dimitrov > > > > On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> On 2/22/05 5:17 AM, "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> typed: >> >>> Luis, I would suggest that Leica cannot survive independently because >>> it >>> has for some time been run by people who have no competency in > running >>> late 20th, early 21st century businesses. The only way it can > possibly >>> "survive" is if another company - Cosina? Canon? - buys it, probably >>> to >>> come out with a digital rangefinder with an M lens mount which it > will >>> badge Leica, and perhaps to keep the M7 manufacturing going. I > believe >>> it's safe to predict that who ever takes over Leica will do away with >>> all the special order camera nonsense, and will probably kill off the >>> MP. >>> >> Actually B.D. you might keep in mind that as this is the Leica Users >> Group >> this is a group of people who use Leicas. >> The PRODUCT that this famously bad management group you keep harping >> about >> endlessly MAKES NOW. It is their current or recent PRODUCT. >> Which they deserve credit for. >> Most of us are into the new stuff. The new "product". >> The same basic management and certainly the company that since I >> started >> getting into Leica 12 years ago come out with the revolutionary >> 24 ASPH >> 21 ASPH >> 35 Summicron and Summilux both ASPH. >> 50 Summilux ASPH and collapsible Elmar, my next lens probably,. >> 90 Elmarit and APO ASPH Summicron and collapsible macro. >> 135 3.4 Telyt APO >> The m7 and Mp and the m6 TTL. >> Much of this I've bought into and used since it's come out in the last >> twelve years I've been getting more and more into Leica. >> As you'd think others on this list might also be doing. >> >> And all kinds of R stuff which I know less about. >> >> No company in the world have come up with products year after year >> which >> have so consistently consumed my funds and time than Leica. >> Yes my Leicas are worth a bit more than what I paid for my used 94 >> Volvo >> station wagon. >> Not my house though. I guess my first and top devotion goes to the >> house >> making industry. I should just the House Users Group. That's where my >> money >> is. >> >> So there is nothing amazing about my appreciation for Leica the >> company or >> management. >> I use the products the company has come out with over the past dozen >> years. >> >> And it's not so amazing that as a NON Leica user, BD you'd NOT think >> so highly of them. Even be HIGHLY CRITICAL of them. But it's not >> exactly "MAN BITES DOG". The only thing amazing to me is why you are >> here feeling the need to continually hit us with this nasty negative >> line. You just never run out of >> hot air! >> >> Leica is down and gasping now. >> Me I hate to see it being kicked while it's down here by people who >> never >> liked it to begin with. >> Its just too obvious. >> But criticized by those who have a real interest in it. >> A real positive interest in it. >> To me that's real conversation. >> Lets hear some real critical cutting insight by someone who's made a >> commitment to Leica use. >> That's more "MAN BITES DOG". Or at least good conversation. >> >> I think instead of people cavalierly making jokes about whose going to >> buy >> Leica, Michel Jackson or Walt Disney some of us do something positive >> like a >> friend of mine just did yesterday. >> Buy a Leica. >> Actually he bought a collapsible 90. I may do the same. >> >> The news is that Leica is in very deep trouble and might go under. Not > >> that they PROBABLY will go under. And not that they're GOING to go >> under for sure. >> >> You would think the Leica Users Group would be behind Leica. >> >> >> Mark Rabiner >> Photography >> Portland Oregon >> http://rabinergroup.com/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > Slobodan Dimitrov > Photography > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > Slobodan Dimitrov Photography