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Subject: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Wed Apr 13 03:27:15 2005

Nice, but I like this one even better:

http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/01.html


> From: eric <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:24:31 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica  V. Yashica
> 
> just my 2 cents - trying to reuse an old image I guess:
> 100 macro elmar wide open:
> http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/05.html
> (warning: artsy shot of crying kid)
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
> 
> 
>> On 4/12/05 9:33 AM, "Douglas Sharp" <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> typed:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Only one third Leica and no Rollei at all. It may , however, be of
>>> interest to those of us who like optical excellence whatever the source
>>> may be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2 full-frame shots: taken with a Macro-Elmar 4/100mm and a
>>> Yashica ML 2,8/55mm Macro both at f8, Canon 20D at ISO 100, tripod
>>> mounted, daylight.
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8_full_frame
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_full_frame
>>> 2 centre crops from the same shots
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_f8
>>> 
>>> I think that the resolution of the Yashica is superior but the clour
>>> rendition of the Leica is better (richer).
>>> Just to make sure that the lenses were comparable they were both
>>> cleaned, front and rear elements, before taking these.
>>> I ran the test through 5 times and got the same results for f8 and for
>>> other apertures, refocussing each test series to eliminate any possible
>>> focussing errors, and picked the best of each run. Maybe I got a duff
>>> Elmar, this difference in quality is surprising to say the least.
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>> 
>>> BTW it's a Miners Safety Lamp
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Boy oh Boy Doug and yous guys!
>> 
>> The thin plane of focus on the macro Elmar shot is at the far right edge
>> of
>> the frame.
>> Its certainly to the right of the "S" of "lamps" and the "8" of the "
>> B/28"
>> I'm not even sure that true point or total plane of focus is even IN the
>> frame.
>> It just might be on the right half of the "8" itself but my hunch is its a
>> tad in front of it. Towards us.
>> In the air.
>> 
>> The focus with the Yashica shot is further left on the "P" of "lamps".
>> The "m" is behind the plane of focus
>> And the "S" is in front of it.
>> 
>> So if we then look at THAT area in the macro Elmar shot we think its
>> "sharper" then the macro Elmar. If we didn't look at the rest of the shot.
>> It's not where the very narrow plane of focus IS on that shot.
>> It's way to the left of it by the distance of 2 or 3 letters or numbers in
>> the shot.
>> 
>> The DOF in such a shot is about an 8th of an inch as we can see.
>>    a shot on a curve like this illustrates such a thing.
>> 
>> I cant believe this crazy test has got all you guys fooled!  :)
>> 
>> On a test like this you'd have to bracket your focusing to make them both
>> match up. But it could easily be done with some bracketing. You barely
>> breath on the lens to change the focus by several millimeters. You just
>> look
>> at it funny and it will shift a full letter over.
>> :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Rabiner
>> Photography
>> Portland Oregon
>> http://rabinergroup.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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