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Subject: [Leica] Re: Let's Just Say That Leica Survives and....
From: firkin at ncable.net.au (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Thu Apr 21 22:55:31 2005
References: <BE8CAEEF.13B1C%mark@rabinergroup.com>

What Thornton was trying to say - I think, and we can never really 
check, because he snuffed it, was that for a "perfect" print, and he 
was very careful to discuss his definition of "perfect", which lead to 
that statement. In reality, the book suggests that you can get perfect 
prints larger than that, and as I recall 10 x 15 was about his "upper 
limit" for 35mm, saying that smaller was "safer". It s a good read 
however, and does really make you "think".

Cheers
On 21/04/2005, at 6:14 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> On 4/21/05 12:18 AM, "Richard" <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> typed:
>
>> I think that's the beauty of the Leica glass. I have routinely print 
>> 11x14
>> and some times 13x19 with scanned Provia100/400F. Gorgeous stuff!
>>
>> At 11:35 PM 4/20/2005, Scott McLoughlin wrote:
>>
>>> Even with a 4000 DPI scan on a Nikon Coolscan mutli-sampled
>>> with Vuescan to reduce noise (and so on and on),  I find 8x10
>>> is OK or sometimes even pushing it depending on the image. I
>>> know there are folks who print much larger (digitally), so maybe
>>> I've got something to learn.
>>> I read the "Edge of Darkness" book, where Barry Thornton says
>>> that he only thinks a Hassie neg should be printed 10x10 inches
>>> and perhaps that spooked me as far as bigger enlargements are
>>> concerned :-)
>>
>> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
>> please
>> use richard at imagecraft.com)
>>
>>
> Don't believe that garbage.
> This is a guy who wants you to think he was weaned on contact printing 
> with
> an 8x10. Probably made 5x7's from stuff he shot with an Argus C3 with a
> cheap enlarger.
>
> I'm made many a 30x40 inch print from both 35mm negs and medium format 
> 6x6.
> The images don't look unpleasantly stretched past the limit. But are
> completely viable. I'd seen them all the time coming out of the color 
> rental
> lab. So its not like I'd lost my perspective. I knew it was way 
> possible
> ahead of time.
>
> I will say the larger format stuff looks better in a certain way that 
> big,
> richer than a smaller format shot.
> But it helps holding them side by side to see the difference.
> But the kind of spontaneity you get with the smaller formats you're not
> usually going to get with the larger. With the larger you get a 
> mountain or
> a tree. With the smaller you can get a kid racing across the kitchen 
> floor.
> Looks great 30x40, that kid.
> I hate to say it but ANYTHING looks great 30x40.
> When in doubt.
> Blow it up beyond all recognition.
> Then hang a show. Everyone will think you're the greatest thing since 
> sliced
> bread. Its a lot harder to impress them with an 8x10 image.
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
> http://rabinergroup.com/
>
>
>
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