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Subject: [Leica] DMR RAW files for download, NOW: Fringing.
From: creativevisions at verizon.net (Michael J Herring)
Date: Fri Jun 3 23:23:53 2005
References: <BAY107-F305C1E8853D6C7BC4EB28CED070@phx.gbl>

I have never experienced this color fringing on my MKII.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "eric korenman" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
To: <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR RAW files for download, NOW: Fringing.


> But what about the color fringing?
> Isn't it awfully prominent at high contrast borders?
> Do the D2x and MKII exihibit this degree of fringing?
>
> Eric
>
>
>>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de>
>>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR RAW files for download, NOW: Fringing.
>>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:19:58 +0200
>>
>>Hello Mikiro,
>>try auto colour correction on the dragonfly picture and see if it shifts
>>to blue, it did when I ran it in PS Elements 3.0.
>>
>>I agree about the quality, I think it resembles more the shots from the
>>Olympus P&S digicamera my wife uses more than what I'm used to getting
>>from a Canon 20D or 300D. Are the images losing something during
transfer
>>from the linked site?
>>
>>I've just compared a few parameters between 20D and DMR files
>>
>>DNG file size 19.4MB converts to TIFF 28.7 MB
>>CR2 file size  8.4MB converts to TIFF 23.4 MB
>>
>>Unless my way of thinking is terribly wrong I make that a compression
>>factor of 1.48 for DNG and 2.8 for CR2, so you would be getting a lot
more
>>CR2 files on your storage card.
>>The relative sizes are, at 240 dpi
>>DMR 3876x2584        Canon 20D 3504x2336  pixels
>>DMR 41.02x27.35cm    Canon 20D 37.08x24.72cm  print size at 240dpi
>>
>>Both files do have an aspect ratio of 1,5 (2:3 format) so nothing has
been
>>cropped here. The Leica file is in effect 1.2 times larger than the
Canon
>>file, so somebody is being not quite accurate with the factors 1,37 and
>>1,6 quoted for the crop factors, this should work out as 1.16
>>
>>So in non-mathematical language the full resolution print size advantage
>>you get with a Leica DMR file is 20%, sounds quite reasonable until you
>>see that the print is then only 3.9cm longer (1.55 inches) and 2.6cm
>>higher (1.03inches) at the same resolution of 240dpi.
>>
>>Probably all a waste of time , but somebody may find the figures
>>interesting.
>>Cheers
>>Douglas
>>
>>
>>MIKIRO wrote:
>>>Douglas,
>>>
>>>I played with the image files on Photoshop. To my eye they look as if
>>>they had been taken with a smaller digicam, which may suggest the
limited
>>>dynamic range you feel and/or possible problems of the lenses used. I
do
>>>not see a massive shift to the blue channel but a tone similar to those
I
>>>saw with Panasonic/Leica digicams.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>MIKIRO
>>>Japan
>>>
>>>Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>>
>>>>I downloaded the church and the dragonfly <nd ran them through PS with
>>>>acouple of simple standard processes, levels. contrast, auto colour
>>>>correction. Also through a couple of plug-ins like ColorCastFX.
>>>>The reaction of the dragonfly shot to processing is disturbing, I get
>>>>the impression that there is a very limited dynamic range on these
>>>>files, and a tendency to a massive shift to the blue channel.
>>>>Can anyone else confirm this so that I can be sure that it's not me
>>>>making mistakes.
>>>>Douglas
>>>>
>>>>B. D. Colen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>And a 100 iso image at that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 6/2/05 7:20 PM, "eric" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Interesting - the color fringing problem is pretty darn severe on
some
>>>>>>images.
>>>>>>Look at "Kapuzinerkirche Salzburg" and look at the light fixture on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>upper left.
>>>>>>Very prominent color fringing is evident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>To: <lug@leica-users.org>; <leica@freelists.org>;
>>>>>>><leicareflex@freelists.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:06 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [Leica] DMR RAW files for download
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Several sample RAW files in DNG format are available on Peter
>>>>>>>>Werner's
>>>>>>>>website (not dial-up friendly):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.leicaphoto.net/Download/DMR_Raw/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doug Herr
>>>>>>>>Birdman of Sacramento
>>>>>>>>http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>
>>>
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