Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/06/12

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Subject: [Leica] Erwin's Latest
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Sun Jun 12 23:03:55 2005
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Some interesting takeaways.

Canon lenses are ok, but not nearly up to Leica snuff. Many photogs
"won't notice." In any case, Canon's current R&D is oriented toward
IS zooms where even more design compromises are the norm.

Good PR is really important to sell products these days. The tech
driven companies got it, and the traditional chemistry companies
don't.  Rings true with me.

Leica has lacked imagination over the last 5 years. Has (had) a
chance to closely identify their product with the tradition of B&W
film photography but so far has failed to gain/increase significant
mindshare in the market.  Sounds right to me. 

Focus on collectors and historically driven buyers alienates shooter
oriented potential customers. Rings very, very true to my ears.

Digital will require partnerships because Leica doens't have enough
money to completely roll their own digital solutions (duh). They
haven't managed the existing partnerships well, in terms of disitinguishing
their products from the partner's.

OK. All makes sense.

-1- Cheaper 135 format film camera. Little smaller, polycarb. A few
polycarb build Summicrons. This is to help strengthen Leica's mindshare
amoung the "traditional B&W film" crowd.  Get new customers, and get
some of the used buyers to buy new. Also a good backup body. Smaller
appeals to the Leica III and CL crowd too.  It's all good.

-2- Keep making the nice traditional M's to satisfy whatever marketshare is
out there. These things are art :-)   Same for flagship build lenses. Keep
building the best.  But body R&D comes out of the digi group.

-3- APS-C Digi M. Just gotta get one out the darn door. Please make one
that's sturdy polycarb and doesn't cost $6K for a friggin 6-8MP sensor,
when every snot nose consumer will have their eye on 10MP in just a
few years.  Again, make it a little smaller than a current M7. Make a few
"special edition" traditional build digi M's to keep the collectors happy
and critics otherwise at bay.

-4- Make a wide Tri Elmar - W3E to work on the digi M APS sensor.

-5- Make an APS-C  CM-D.  Really nice 28/2 lens or thereabouts (rough
40-42mm equiv.). Nice fast fixed lens, small APS-C sensor P&S with great
high ISO performace. Zippo shutter lag. I'd buy one of these.

-6- License a few decent flash units, at least one smaller bounce head
unit that works with the TTL on the CM-D and digi-M.

-7- Hire a good PR and advertising firm in key markets. Sell the damn
things to new customers (yes, still a niche).  Creepy LFI bable be damned.
Small, best quality, candids, B&W film standard bearer, best optics now
available in the digital age. The 2nd digital camera everyone wants to have
in their bag (SLR's are going to dominate now and for always, so basically
skip marketing to the RF only shooter).

Give some of the damn things away to notable photogs in exchange for
adverts. Have a killer Web site - Leica shooters galleries (free), software
updates (free), forums, monthly contests, etc. I like the idea of 
selling some
nicely priced rebranded Fuji or Ilford B&W products.  Makes those B&W
film shooters feel nice and secure and taken care of.  Rebrand Fuji's
slide processing envelopes for the chrome shooters.

Hell, buy one of the many image editting programs out there, integrate
RAW processing and make it open source. Solicit end user plugins and
build an online database. Who knows.

Whatever. Just some ideas. But get modern. You know, get "digital."
Drop the creepy, stuffy image. No more poorly translated German
press copy. Hell, if IBM can do it (and they sell  some very high priced
products), so can Leica.

There. Plenty of imagination. Distinctive products. Modern. Priced to sell,
but still premium priced compared to Canon/Nikon. Nothing so gradiose that
it requires a Canon/Leica scale of operations. Bold enough moves to entice
new investors.

Now just execute.

Scott

David W. Almy wrote:

> All,
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> The second is of particular interest.
>
> David W. Almy
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