Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/08/19

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Subject: [Leica] PAW Aug. 17th, 2005
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Fri Aug 19 09:51:31 2005
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Chris said:
>>Hey, digital does not have grain! :)

Tina Manley responded:
 > Digital noise = grain. :-) <<

Hi Tina,
Right on! :-) And one of my sore points with the designers of digital 
camera's and that is.... "if they were photographers" looking at the effect, 
the lingo wouldn't be so damn hard to understand!

If photographer's had designed digi camera's "noise" would be called 
"Electronic grain!" Then real photographers would've known what the heck 
they were talking about and how the effect would look.!

Heck the first time I heard about noisy digital cameras I couldn't believe 
the designers would be so stupid to make a "NOISY" camera, when for years 
we'd been using Leica's because they were quiet.

And when my first digi camera arrived I held it to my ear after reading 
about "Noise" So I fired it a few times trying to hear the noise everyone 
was talking about. No "Audible sound!" It was like what the heck are they 
talking about "noisy cameras?"

Then I was told they were really talking about a "grain looking effect." :-) 
Then I was shown the effect and my immediate re-action was... "Why didn't 
the morons call it "electronic grain?"

And that's what I call it as soon as someone starts going on about "digital 
camera and noise!" Why? Well hell it's common sense photographic looking and 
something we understand instead of techie words with no relevance to 
photography lingo ;-)

ted 



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