Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks Philippe, you are always a mine of information on stuff like this. Maybe you're right and I'm trying to make it too easy for myself. Perhaps I'll put some torn and scratched edges on the final product, if and when I get there :-) :-) Thanks again to everyone else too, I've got a lot to work on now, that's what I love about the list, there's always help at hand. cheers Douglas Philippe Orlent wrote: >I think to imitate Sutcliffe's look, your lens is too good: it should be a >lot softer. Also, looking at his photos, I think the light you shot the tall >ships in was a bit too hard. >So it's not only about shifting some sliders in PS. >I also think the creamy beige you refer to is basically a result of >unperfectioned fixing in Sutcliffe's days: his initial prints would have >been a lot less sepia, I suspect. >However, I did a test on one of your low res color pics, and I think you >should combine different things: tone the overall image as you want to, and >then play with selective colors for the lighter parts (or with color select, >feather and colro balance on that selection) >Some dodging/burning and playing with the levels and curves for contrast >will also be necessary. >And a bit of vignetting imitation ofcourse. >One thing is sure: there are different ways of obtaining a good sepia look, >and the basic duotone funtion of PS will not be enough. > > > > >>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> >>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:17:27 +0200 >>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Tall ships - sepia toned >> >>Hello Peter, >>thanks, I actually put a little (too much?) blur over the shot, it was >>much too hard , and looked a bit too clinical, even for my tastes. >>I'm still working on getting that wonderful creamy beige Sutcliffe tone >>into the whites and greys, his work doesn't seem to have much of a tonal >>range, except on the pictures >>taken in his garden and in the countryside. >>Yes, except for the Kipper smokers up Henrietta Street, there's not a >>trace of smoke in Whitby anymore. Unfortunately, while we were there a >>few weeks ago , there were no sea-frets either, >>As to his Water Rats,today they would run him out of town for it and >>wreck his studio. >>I don't know whether there is any truth in the story, but I heard that a >>crowd of illiterates somewhere in the UK beat up a paedeatrician >>(spelling?) thinking he was a paedophile . >>cheers >>Douglas >> >>Peter Dzwig wrote: >> >> >> >>>Douglas Sharp wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>The British photographer Frank Meadow Sutcliffe was born in Leeds (so >>>>was I) >>>>He spent a lot of time in Whitby (So do I) >>>> >>>>Trying (possibly in vain) to capture something of the atmosphere of >>>>his pictures I just posted 2 sepia toned Tall Ship pictures. >>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/Ships-and-Boats/Image1_101_edited_2_001 >>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/Ships-and-Boats/Image1_106_edited_2 >>>> >>>>If any one knows of a good toning software,let me know, I did these >>>>with replace colour and colours picked from original Sutcliffe prints. >>>>Douglas >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Douglas, >>> >>>;-) I like edited_2_001, very much. Peculiarly it isn't very sharp on >>>my screen (unusual for your pictures) is that the toning or what. >>>Perhaps a bit more burning in of the upper quarter of the sky, and >>>cropping out of the swan? But very FMS. >>> >>>Must say that when we have discussed toned pictures before, all I have >>>done is to replace colour and to try and do my best by eye, but have >>>done a good bit of local brightness or contrast enhancement on the >>>original B&W. >>> >>>If I may I will have a go at a download of yours and see where I get. >>> >>>As to not being close; we both know - as should everyone else on the >>>list!! - how good FMS was at capturing the airs and mists of Whitby >>>and elsewhere. Unfortunately - or rather fortunately - the Clean Air >>>Acts have changed all that; see particularly The Water Rats and Belle >>>Isle; - and Health and Safety, Whitby Council, Yorkshire Social >>>Services, Childline and many others would have prosecuted FMS to hell >>>had he been trying to shoot the Water Rats in the middle of Whitby >>>harbour today. >>> >>>All the best, >>> >>>Peter >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >