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Subject: Back to Film [was Re: [Leica] Nocti-luck]
From: firkin at ncable.net.au (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Tue Oct 11 22:02:30 2005
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You are just toooooo sensible Nathan, what are you doing on this list 
;-) and I mean big :-)

On 12/10/2005, at 2:26 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Richard,
>
> A DSLR like the Canon 20D you were contemplating has no perceptible 
> shutter lag. I have been shooting with one for most of the past year, 
> and I cannot think of any image that I have missed because of that. In 
> fact, I have experienced the opposite: because there was the idea in 
> the back of my mind that digital=shutter lag, I would sometimes press 
> the shutter *too early* and a result the moving object ended up not 
> where I wanted it in the frame--because there I was compensating for a 
> shutter lag that wasn't there.
>
> As for the buying and selling, it is entirely up to you. Just because 
> a new model comes out does not mean that you have to buy it. I know 
> people who are still shooting with the Canon 1D, and on the Miranda 
> forum people are still buying and selling older Canon DSLRs like the 
> D60 or even D30. I just sold my 20D and bought a second-hand 1D Mark 
> II; in other words, I upgraded to what is in fact an older model! I 
> did it because I wanted the better focusing, the ruggedness, and the 
> weather-sealing of the 1D II. And yes, I knew about the new models 
> like the 5D and 1D Mark II N, but neither of them had features that 
> would compel me to cough up the extra money.
>
> I am sure that 2 or 3 years from now I will still be shooting with my 
> 1D II. I am also sure that at least 1 and probably 2 new generations 
> of models will have been released by then. But the release of a new 
> model does not affect how my pictures look. If it has compelling 
> features, I might upgrade, but frankly the existing kit is so good 
> that I cannot really see what those would be.
>
> Nathan
>
> Richard S. Taylor wrote:
>
>> My Digilux 2 spends most of its time in the bag now for just this 
>> reason.  I got really tired of trying to figure out ways to work 
>> around the delays.  Having to deal with the noise at high ISO, was 
>> another big issue.
>> There's another reason to stay with film, too - at least for me.  The 
>> digital camera market is still far too unstable to allow reasonable 
>> buying decisions to be made.  We're still in the Wild West of camera 
>> development.
>> A couple of months ago I was almost ready to plunk down real money 
>> for either a *istDS (when I was feeling frugal) or a Canon 20D (when 
>> I felt richer).  Just as I was ready to make a decision, up comes the 
>> preliminary announcement of first the *istDL, then the Canon 5D. "Uh, 
>> oh," I say to myself, "better wait."
>> Further, the value of used digital cameras is pretty low and at least 
>> one camera store here in the Boston area won't even take them in 
>> trade.  I all ready have too much invested in obsolete technology 
>> with the Digilux 2.  The last thing I want to do now is spend 
>> big-bucks on a camera that will be behind the state of the art in 18 
>> months.
>> The combination of film and commercial scans provides, to my mind 
>> anyway, the best of both worlds, with inherent archival storage 
>> thrown in, too boot.
>> Besides, using film will let me put some miles on my still pretty 
>> much brand new M7 that was otherwise languishing in the closet.  The 
>> delay between shooting and seeing the result is something I can live 
>> with.
>> I've even put my Olympus Stylus Epic back to work.
>
> -- 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Almere, The Netherlands
>
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