Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/16

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Subject: [Leica] Tri-X and D-23
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Mon Jan 16 06:34:28 2006
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I wish I still had a set of little scoops that were used for 
hand-loading power and shot into shotgun shells. Maybe I'll look for 
them at this month's gun show.

At 08:14 AM 01/16/2006, you wrote:
>On 1/16/06 5:48 AM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342@cox.net> typed:
>
> > Yes, that is pretty much what I got. I wasn't expecting to get such 
> > little
> > grain that it couldn't really even be called "grain". I'm thinking that 
> > it
> > might be a good people film/dev combination, but a terrible landscape
> > combination. There doesn't seem to be a lot of sharpness anywhere 
> (but I was
> > shooting wide open indoors under horrific lighting conditions with no
> > ambient light and a big window to our right side).
> > http://www.400tx.com/george.html
> >
> > I'm ambivalent on it. The sheer simplicity of D-23 (two powders) makes me
> > want to explore it a bit more, at least under some different conditions.
> >
> >
> > Jeffery Smith
> > New Orleans, LA
> > http://www.400tx.com
> >
> >
>d23 will give you just the kind of grain you'd like to get, depending how
>much Sulfite you put in, it will be VERY smooth mushy fine grain at 100grams
>per liter full strength. And will give you a crispy Rodinal almost grain at
>around a tenth that; which I've done extensively, a bad analogy would be
>"how much scotch grad do you want to spray on that raincoat? Do you want to
>sweat all day but stay dry in a deluge? Never mind,
>d23 is just giving you two simple tools to easily make your own developer
>with, as there are only two there is little or no confusion as to what is
>doing what when you do a tweak, blow it up and compare,
>
>Ansel would say that its not the developer its how you dilute it,
>
>In this case you can in effect dilute each of two main and only parameters
>separately. And easily. And fun, and you can SEE the results You made.
>In you chemistry office Bat cave.
>I think the sulfite is like the reed pull stop and the Metol is like the
>flues stop,
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>Mark Rabiner
>Photography
>Portland Oregon
>http://rabinergroup.com/
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