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Subject: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and HCB -goldenmean
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 11 19:32:18 2006

I apologize for yaking about art without being an art critic, and I didn't
imply that anyone who divided a frame into thirds etc. was a little Henri.
BD made it clear that he thought my initial observations about the
documentary were laughable. I stand corrected. But your condenscending
sarcasm is over the edge, I think. 

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com




-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Walt
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:18 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph,and HCB
-goldenmean


I'm all for aesthetics but that has little or nothing to do with 
"formulas". If it were as easy as dividing the frame up into 3rds or 5 
ninths or whatever, then we could all be little Henris .     :-P

Besides, it is better to let your work do the talking for you.....Yaking 
about art is for art critics and dabblers, making it is for us Leica 
guys. (and girls) :-*

Walt

p.s I've never divided up your 9th ward photos into math formulas but 
think they are very good anyway.

Jeffery Smith wrote:

>This is what happens when one tries to talk about photography on the 
>LUG. Okay, let's talk gear! How about 'dem Olympus lenses!!!
>
>Jeffery Smith
>New Orleans, LA
>http://www.400tx.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>Walt Johnson
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:52 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph,and HCB 
>-goldenmean
>
>
>No. No, No..I'm  familiar with all the non sequiturs...Show me a
>photograph.... >:o >:o >:o :-P One you've taken which debunks Henri's 
>secrets.
>
>Jeffery Smith wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Okay, one other tidbit is that HCB also preferred using the entire
>>24x36 frame even thought it is an "off" size compared to most other 
>>frames. He didn't want the images cropped (and has the black edge of 
>>the film showing in some of his books of prints). The 2x3 ratio fits 
>>the golden mean format better than 4x5, etc.
>>
>>Jeffery Smith
>>New Orleans, LA
>>http://www.400tx.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>Walt Johnson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:21 PM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and HCB 
>>-goldenmean
>>
>>
>>Show me! >:o
>>
>>Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Perhaps because I've discovered the secret of his framing? ;-)
>>>
>>>Jeffery Smith
>>>New Orleans, LA
>>>http://www.400tx.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>B. D. Colen
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:02 PM
>>>To: Leica Users Group
>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and 
>>>HCB
>>>-golden mean
>>>
>>>
>>>Fascinating to see, Jeffery, but why do I think that HCB  is sitting 
>>>his his studio in the sky, enjoying a snifter of heavenly cognac, 
>>>laughing his ass off?
>>>
>>>
>>>On 4/11/06 7:54 PM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Bob,
>>>>
>>>>In looking at many of HCB's photos in the documentary, I detected
>>>>that HCB seemed to be looking for angles (one part of the documentary 
>>>>had HCB talking constantly of "geometry"). The placement of subjects 
>>>>seemed to be invariably on one side of an angle as I have collected
>>>>here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.400tx.com/HCB.html
>>>>
>>>>Even if these images aren't compellingly "golden mean" (I couldn't
>>>>find little thumbnails of all of the examples they showed in the 
>>>>film), HCB almost never places his subjects in the center of the 
>>>>frame, and when he doesn't have an obvious diagonal, he often has a 
>>>>rule of thirds composition.
>>>>
>>>>Jeffery Smith
>>>>New Orleans, LA
>>>>http://www.400tx.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>bob palmieri
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:49 PM
>>>>To: lug@leica-users.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and
>>>>HCB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jeffrey & Tina -
>>>>
>>>>I know from the Golden Section, but I don't really understand how to
>>>>use it in an organic way in snapping. Can you show me how it applies 
>>>>to, perhaps, some of HCB's pictures?
>>>>
>>>>Bob Palmieri
>>>>
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