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Subject: [Leica] New additions to Hospital 24Hs gallery
From: eduardoalbesi at ciudad.com.ar (Eduardo Albesi)
Date: Sun Apr 23 09:17:50 2006
References: <8795614A-5649-4179-8162-B793FF996AA9@ciudad.com.ar> <001f01c666dd$91e223c0$73b56c18@ted>

Ted,
I do really agree with all of your observations, and appreciate each  
of them. Yours is really precious advice for me.

Frame 15 will be rescanned, on print there's some detail in the  
shadows that give another dimension to it.
I was not completely decided about frame 16, but the 4 or 5 taken at  
that time were all tilted (it was me tilted!). I am going back and  
try again.
Frame 17 well, it works and it had to be there
Frame 18 is definitely out.
Frame 19, as #17
Frame 20 was not a directed shot. And you're right about the eye- 
line. And you're right I was going to be thrown out, the patient was  
waiting for the verdict in the shadows behind and I was definitely  
melting on the background, far and away from my medical usual  
camouflage.

Thank you again

Ed



El 23/04/2006, a las 10:55, Ted Grant escribi?:

> Eduardo Albesi showed:
> Subject: [Leica] New additions to Hospital 24Hs gallery
>
>
>> I have added some images to the Hospital 24Hs gallery.
>> From Inpatients (http://gallery.leica-users.org/album126/h24h23x4)<<<
>
> Hi Ed,
> Some very good photographic moments, maybe 2 I might not use.
>
> frame 15/
> As much as I like the highlighting of the bed sheets I find it to  
> dark. Which of course may be corrected with a lighter print?
>
> frame 16/
> Mopping up the floor I very much like the indoor outdoor  
> reflections. Nit picking comment..... "holding the camera straight  
> horizontally and vertically because you didn't here." It appears  
> you tilted the camera down from the right top corner. :-(
>
> And because there are so many strong vertical lines it makes the  
> tilting down more obvious. When I'm shooting in this type of  
> setting I quickly check left and right sides of the internal  
> viewfinder and square the camera off straight with edges of windows  
> or door frames or whatever building frame lines I can. That doesn't  
> mean I keep them in the picture but it allows something to line the  
> camera with, thus avoiding the distortion. This action is done much  
> faster than I'm typing it, however it makes for a cleaner and  
> smarter looking photo.
>
> frame 17/
> Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The reassuring and comforting hand of a  
> medical person's hand on the shoulder of patient or family member  
> nearly always works as you've shown here. It's such a simple  
> gesture but can be so powerful in a medical series.
>
> frame 18/
> Right or wrong here's what I see. The medic in the background  
> appears to be "smiling or smirking" even though with mask. He seems  
> very aware you're taking his picture. I try to avoid this if  
> possible and wait for the subject to be doing something  
> particularly when they show they know the picture is being shot.
>
> The medic in foreground, obviously there's always a lot of standing  
> around time as the OR is prepped or staff waiting for the surgeon.  
> But this chap doesn't seem to have the right kind of expression or  
> whatever it is, again maybe he's  conscious of the camera?
>
> 19/
> Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) Beautifully executed using the wide open  
> aperture dropping the background way out of focus. Technically  
> perfect! When you do your final print cut, that one stays in the  
> series.... don't lose it! :-) Well done!
>
> 20/
> If this is a "see & shoot" it without any direction from you, it  
> works nicely with first class available light. With good lighting  
> and concentration of expression of doctors it's very strong. Of  
> course sometimes it starts out as we see this situation, then we  
> have a moment where it can become a slightly directed shot. In that  
> case I usually have the subjects look at the upper edge of the  
> papers rather than the more head down to middle of page as we see  
> here. "Only after I've shot the original as I see it do I make the  
> verbal suggestion for an eye-line direction change."
>
> Depending on the situation do I speak because that breaks into  
> their thought process and we're not here  but rather the silent  
> observer/recorder. Not creating what we think it should look like!  
> Besides, doing that can get you thrown out!  :-)
>
> When you have them look at the top edge it brings the head and "eye- 
> line" upwards creating a better head - eye direction. (sometimes)  
> However this shot works as is, but it's always good to keep a  
> little direction in the back of mind just in case for a touch of  
> improvement if necessary.
>
> Nice additions to the series. Please keep them coming.
>
> ted
>
>
>
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