Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/05/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Every photographer should have been at least once in his life in a real darkroom, even if only to look at somebody else doing everything. I agree with you completely, B.D. But I wonder, since not having it lived consciously myself, were there similar discussions about truth -with even simple darkroom techniques such as dodging and burning- back then, too? If applied masterfully, they can change the content or perception of a photograph as thoroughly as PS does nowadays. Op 12-mei-06, om 23:28 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven: > It doesn't just apply to journalism though - it's beginning to be a > lost > reference point for all photography. The average kid today may > never have > been in a darkroom. Think about it - what the hell do "burn" and > "dodge" > mean - on the PS tools - if you've never done real darkroom work? :-) > > > On 5/12/06 1:38 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> > wrote: > >> I agree. If it's about journalism. >> >> >> Op 12-mei-06, om 19:34 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven: >> >>> You think you're joking, Philippe - just a couple of hours ago I was >>> skimming a column in a national press photographer's association >>> magazine in >>> which a photography teacher at, as I recall, the University of >>> Arkansas said >>> that they are now two years past the last class of graduates to >>> have ever >>> spent time in a real darkroom. And that, he said, begins to raise >>> havoc with >>> what has been the standard ethical guideline regarding the use of >>> photoshop >>> - only do to the image in photoshop what you would normally have >>> done in a >>> darkroom; or only except from a photoshopped image what you would >>> have >>> accepted from the darkroom. But if today's photographers think a >>> darkroom is >>> their bedroom with the lights off.... >>> >>> >>> On 5/12/06 1:11 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dodging? That's the 7th down from the 2nd row of 'tools', right? >>>> >>>> Just adding a ;-) to be sure. >>>> >>>> Op 12-mei-06, om 19:05 heeft Rei Shinozuka het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>>> it's a very handsome photo otherwise, maybe dodging the >>>>> surrounding >>>>> areas would rescue the image. (doesn't the phrase "dodging" >>>>> today sound almost quaint?) >>>>> >>>>> i have noticed that something approaching 100% of real-life "bad >>>>> bokeh" >>>>> examples are of vegetation; mostly tree branches or leaves. so >>>>> keep >>>>> those bad bokesters away from wildlife! >>>>> >>>>> -rei >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/12/06 12:39 PM, "Nathan Wajsman" <nathan@nathanfoto.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well Daniel, with such subject matter one can tolerate many >>>>>>> things...but >>>>>>> that bokeh is indeed not very attractive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel Ridings wrote: >>>>>>>> A lot of people puke at my Rolleicord's bokeh (under certain >>>>>>>> circumstances ... close focus, pretty much wide-open). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/informal/ >>>>>>>> v15-0002-43264.jpg.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com >>>>> Ridgewood, New Jersey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >