Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/02

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Subject: [Leica] OFF-TOPIC: Google mail (gmail)
From: nathan at nathanfoto.com (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri Jun 2 07:36:47 2006
References: <a2f8f4470606020626p2cfc03aes6d020cdd1a6a14b@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20060602152913.02e2e400@screengang.com>

Didier is right. I manage a business ISP, and we use SORBS for spam  
filtering. The free e-mail services are notorious sources of spam,  
and are often blocked by ISPs and server administrators. However,  
this blocking is on the IP-address level (or a range of IP  
addresses), so that it will rarely happen that for example all of  
Gmail is blocked.

The moral is that you get what you pay for...

Having said all that, using a paid service is no guarantee either. On  
occasion, both AOL and the mail server at the university where Aaron  
is have blocked my ISP, planet.nl, which is a paid service and a  
subsidiary of KPN.

The safest thing is to use your "own" mail server, which does not  
necessarily mean actually having a server in your house--it can be  
one that is part of your shared hosting package, such as the one I am  
using to send this message (nathanfoto.com is actually hosted in  
Atlanta).

Nathan

On 2-jun-2006, at 15:33, Didier Ludwig wrote:

> This is the destiny of most free mailers. Hotmail, googlemail,  
> yahoo, gmx and others - they're all strongly endangered to land in  
> the spam black lists, as they are massively abused by real  
> spammers. I guess Google will try evertything to get out again, but  
> this will take time. And as we say in german "Einem geschenkten  
> Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul" (you don't look at the teeth of a  
> horse you get for free), don't ask too much from free services.
> Didier
>
>
>
>> All of the sudden, as of two or three days ago, there are a lot of
>> places (servers) that are no longer accepting mail that comes from
>> Google Mail (gmail). I am getting all kinds of reports about failed
>> deliveries. It seems that Google's server has been added to a list of
>> those that are regarded as spam or something.
>>
>> Have others noticed this? Be careful if you are using gmail. It is
>> very possible that your mail is not getting through. This happened at
>> an unfortunate time for me (last minute research project deadlines
>> with cooperation with many others and having to keep in touch with
>> them).
>>
>> Daniel
>
>
>
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Nathan Wajsman
nathan@nathanfoto.com
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Replies: Reply from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OFF-TOPIC: Google mail (gmail))
In reply to: Message from dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings) ([Leica] OFF-TOPIC: Google mail (gmail))
Message from rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] OFF-TOPIC: Google mail (gmail))