Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/07/16

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Subject: [Leica] Paying to shoot
From: red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Sun Jul 16 19:31:58 2006

Tina..
You dodged the question....  You have been specifically told not to take 
pictures for professional purposes.... what do you do?  You
have the right to argue.  I will defend that right, politely used and to the 
correct authorities.  The question is:  Do you take the
pictures after being told not to?  ( Note that it makes no difference WHY 
you are being told not to not take the pictures.... you
have been officially informed not to.)

If the facility says no pictures, you do not have the right nor the license 
to take nor to use those pictures, no matter the
purpose.  In fact, you have been specifically told that you do not have the 
right.  .  Is this an incorrect statement? 

BTW, Ted was inside the Historical Site doing stock not newspaper 
photography..... not exactly public property, and he was overseas
( Italy) where the rules and legal rights of the individual may and probably 
are different than the US or Canada.....  Not the
issue... you are told specifically not to take the pictures.  You have no 
license to do so....  You do not own the right to sell
those pictures.....

The comment on the thief is to bring to light that no matter what your job 
is, it does not change the rules of ethics.  It has
nothing do with theft.

I have no problem with no signs and no rules in force and you do as you 
want.  But it is your obligation as a professional supplier
that you have the legal right to transfer the rights of the picture to the 
user ( advertising agency for example).  Ignorance  of
the rules of the house, is no excuse.  You can not transfer what you do not 
own.

I think you pointed out that you do not ask permission... so, in those 
cases, you have nothing in writing?

Back to the question... ::::

You have been specifically and officially told to refrain from taking 
pictures for professional purposes.... ......Your ethical
response is to do what?


Frank Filippone
red735i@earthlink.net 




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