Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/09

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Pentax K100D now pentax da 21mm
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Wed Aug 9 19:09:24 2006

Jeffery, the new pentax limited is the da 21mm f/3.4 and on sale at B&H

On 8/9/06, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342@cox.net> wrote:
> It is remarkable that digital sensors and films bottom out at about the 
> same
> light levels. Once you get into 800-1600 ISO territory, things get dicey.
> Give me a full sized sensor that doesn't mind oblique light hitting it and
> responds to the light from a candle without noise. I'll buy it, I promise.
> But our technique is going to have to kick ass to keep up with the
> technology. It's sort of safer the other way around.
>
> Jeffery "777" Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Don 
> Dory
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:34 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Pentax K100D
>
>
> Hoppy,
> D200's have become fairly plentiful as Nikon has switched production to the
> D200 and the D80 and away from the D50.  I bet if you emailed Dr. Yao he
> could sell you one at a good price out of Hong Kong.  The D200 is much
> better built and has a better focusing screen than the D80 as well as the
> ability to use older Ai lenses.
>
> As to the reviews, Sony has some major money to spend on advertising so of
> course nothing negative will be said.  Take it from me, high ISO 
> performance
> is not so hot and flash accuracy is not very good.  Getting good fill flash
> is very hard and autofocus is not up to currrent standards.  No manual
> lenses available(yeah, yeah who needs manual lenses with all those fabulous
> consumer Minolta  AF lenses out there but the good glass was never 
> purchased
> by many so very scarce).  Last, although the reviews say otherwise, I did
> not find the stabilisation to be especially good at longer focal lengths 
> say
> 100mm but I could have had a bad sample.
>
> Instead of lusting for the latest vapor ware or promised land, look to
> established companies that have extensive product out there.  In no order,
> Olympus, Pentax, Nikon, Canon, and even Leica have cameras with a track
> record, large numbers of lenses available new or used, and a history that
> can be judged for suitablity of use for you.  In a year or two we can talk
> about Sony and their DSLR line.
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
> On 8/9/06, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jeffery, yes I thought the same on the Sony reviews.
> > The review just posted on the Nikon D80 is an interesting read, too.
> > However, as noted, no metering with the old glass. That would be a big
> > strike against for me. Still the D200 is almost impossible to obtain
> > locally, so far. Just bought a second Elmar 135 to console myself.
> >
> > I am very impressed that you fitted "futzing" and "cognitive
> > dissonance" in one paragraph. That's danged fine word smithing; B.D.
> > may feel compelled to
> > step in ;-)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Hoppy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of Jeffery Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 09:48
> > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Pentax K100D
> >
> > The impression that I am getting from the "mags" on the Sony is that
> > it is knocking their socks off because of the price. And I'm spending
> > a lot of time futzing with Rolleiflex TLRs. Causing some cognitive
> > dissonance.
> >
> > Jeffery Smith
> > New Orleans, LA
> > http://www.400tx.com
> > http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of G
> > Hopkinson
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:18 PM
> > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Pentax K100D
> >
> >
> > Felix and Jeffery, this looks like the start of a great speculation
> > thread on the Sony's FF model, right here.
> >
> > Since there were so many 35mm format lenses from Minolta and some
> > Zeiss repackaged for the Alpha range, you might take that as a hint.
> > Or you could say that Sony just wanted as big a presence as possible
> > early to get a toehold in the DSLR marketplace. The pro magazines here
> > (Australia) that attended the Japanese launch said that Sony hinted at
> > a simpler and a more professional camera body to be released soon.
> > Rumoured also that the (Alpha)sensor is the same as in the Nikon D200.
> > At least we have something to talk about until Photokina.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Hoppy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of F?lix L?pez de Maturana
> > Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:56
> > To: lug@leica-users.org
> > Subject: [Leica] Re: Pentax K100D
> >
> > >
> > > If Pentax would make a full frame digital camera for under $5,000, I
> > > would be tempted to get one. The Pentax glass I have now is too good
> > > to not be using it more often. I have thought about getting one of
> > > the fast Sigma primes for digital, but I don't know dick about their
> > > quality (other than the build quality being...plastic).
> > >
> > > Jeffery Smith
> > Just you wait Jeffery. Sony has got a full frame sensor ans they are
> > testing it. The commercial process seems however some different than
> > before as is not Nikon the first Sony customer but ?Sony himself! So
> > we'll have in some months a Sony FF that will be able of using Carl
> > Zeiss lenses. Not bad even if the first CZ lenses will be Contax N
> > lenses modified. After that this sensor will be supplied to everybody,
> > Nikon, Pentax, etc.I dream on a Leica R with a full frame sensor back.
> > BTW Sigma "plastic" primes are no designed for lasting but optically
> > are good lenses.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Felix.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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