Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/15

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Subject: [Leica] Lens caps
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Tue Aug 15 17:51:29 2006

ROR may not carry instructions in German, nor is it branded Zeiss, but it is
a stunningly good lens cleaner.


On 8/15/06 8:39 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Yes Marc, I understand. Most likely you may well get away with it.
> However there is increased risk with any ad hoc material that could have
> grit or similar on it, as we all agree.
> I'm not familiar with ROR (a glass cleaner?) I use a routine recommended by
> Zeiss (sold in various groovy little kits):
> soft clean brush, some exotic rocket fuel "Optikputzmishung L" and a CLEAN
> microfibre cloth
> Now how can it not be good when it has the Zeiss logo on the side and
> instructions in German ;-)
> Of course you probably can't take it on an airplane any more and /or it
> causes sterility in socialist dolphins or some-such.
> 
> Since becoming Zeiss and Leica-ised, I have stopped routinely fitting a UV
> filter for protection. I do understand the pros and cons regarding a
> sacrificial surface vs theoretical possible image degradation. Actually I
> think Erwin is fairly cogent on this subject.
> 
> Two comments to finish:
> Since 1972, I have never marked a lens that I can detect (I did drop a
> Yashica TLR the other day and KILLED it)
> 
> I never consider paying for a lens with marked elements, however cheap it
> may be and irrespective of whether the results may not be significantly
> affected.
> 
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> Amateur enthusiast
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Marc James Small
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:41
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: Re: [Leica] Lens caps
> 
> At 09:19 AM 8/16/06 +1000, G Hopkinson wrote:
>> Don't do it Adam!
>> I'm sure that Walt, Ted and many others are fearless enough to get away
> with
>> this and bring back the great pictures.
>> 
>> Here's the litmus test, are you:
>> a. a serious hard hitting photojournalist for whom the gear is just a tool
>> (If it dies, it dies, it's just a stinkin' camera) or
>> b: an enthusiast  photographer who also enjoys the ownership and pleasure
> of
>> having fine Leica equipment
>> (how many sales have you passed on because the seller says, some wipe 
>> marks
>> on the glass)
> 
> Hoppy
> 
> Modern glasses are REALLY tough.  I was shocked, ten or fifteen years back,
> to be working a camera show with the Zeiss Maven, Charlie Barringer, who
> started cleaning a $4,500 lens with a shirt-tail.  I spluttered in protest,
> and he simply reminded me that the Gnomes of Jena knew what they were doing
> when they made the lens and also that HE knew what he was doing, and would
> I mind my own washing?
> 
> He was absolutely correct.  When I have walked across a sandstorm-driven
> wind across an arid desert, then I avoid using my shirt-tail, as I probably
> have some grit in the cloth.  But, beyond that, I go for it.  I clean my
> lenses with ROR when they need it and use a Kleenex as the medium -- but,
> in the field, I'll pull out a handkerchief to do the job, and have used
> spit on occasion when that was the only lubricant on hand.
> 
> Avoid grit on the lens.  Beyond that, modern lens glasses and coatings are
> really tough.
> 
> And avoid filters.  Erwin Puts disagrees with me on this, but the addition
> of another layer of glass degrades the final image.
> 
> Marc
> 
> msmall@infi.net  Home Phone 540-345-5012
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
> 
> 
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