Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D., yes, got that you were championing original RAW capture. I understand and agree from my limited knowledge. I've only played with a couple of RAW files (from a D70 user) as an educational exercise, but is it not only adding a channel mix choice to the workflow? Meanwhile still preserving all of the RGB info as options? Maybe I'm being too simplistic, but is the sensor capture fundamentally not b/w, with filters/alterations applied to produce the three channels? I can't see that actually being commercially viable to pursue but I can see b/w as a minority output choice, being most versatile coming from the three channels. Maybe I'm just overly b/w from colour scan fixated? I really want to understand better. All knowledge is golden, someone wise said. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of B. D. Colen Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 21:41 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Re BW modes I'm arguing against bw capture, Hoppy. However, IF it were possible to have bw RAW capture , it would cut down considerably on post-capture image work. Kodak back when announced a BW only DSLR - 18 mgp, bw only. But it turned out to be the filmiest of vaporware. On 9/15/06 12:23 AM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Mark and B.D. not trying to be obtuse here, but what advantage is there to > capture as BW? > > Cheers > Hoppy > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > MARK DAVISON > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 12:24 > To: lug@leica-users.org > Subject: [Leica] Re BW modes > > B.D. Colen wrote: > >> Any camera's BW mode is and has to be jpg-only, Chris - unless someone has >> a > tiff bw mode I don't know about. > > > The Nikon D200 will do BW mode with RAW. The BW becomes a direction for > how > the NEF (Nikon's RAW format) file is processed by the Nikon editor, and the > embedded .jpg preview is black and white. > > Unfortunately other RAW converters do not honor the BW information in the > NEF file, so this scheme only works with the Nikon software, and not with > Adobe Bridge. > > Mark Davison > > > >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bd@bdcolenphoto.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M8 hands on >> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:42:18 -0400 >> >> RAW gives you what the sensor captures, no >> more, no less - jpg gives you a combination of more and less, because it >> gives you added sharpness, color adjustments, etc., but you lose some >> dynamic range. As good as some built in bw modes are - and the one Olympus >> has in the E330 and E500 is terrific, and I have no reason to assume it >> isn't just as good in the M - you're still much better off shooting raw >> and >> converting yourself. A tad slower in the end, but much more satisfying. >> >> B.D. >> >> >> On 9/14/06 9:05 PM, "Christopher Williams" <leicachris@worldnet.att.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the review Tom. Is the BW mode for Jpeg only? I'm a RAW >> shooter >>> after getting my batch processing down. >>> >>> Chris >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information