Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:09 AM, David Rodgers wrote: >> Ted, >> >> Everything you say is right on. However, I have a different >> perspective >> on Steve's first photo. For me having the person on the left out of >> focus placed the emphasis on the woman on the right. It makes her the >> dominant subject. And that's where my attention went first. I noticed >> that she was going through a thought process, trying to figure >> something >> out. To me the person on the left was supporting object. He was >> providing feedback just like what the woman was obviously looking at. >> Whether that was a chart, monitor, or some other type of information >> feedback isn't apparent. So the photograph was about the woman and >> her >> quest to find an answer, or a solution to a problem; something with >> which I empathized. >> >> If the person on the left had been in focus it would have been more >> about the two of them. It would have been about a discussion >> between two >> people (or maybe more people since it looks the the oof person >> might be >> looking at someone behind the woman rather than at her). Instead it's >> about the one person. >> >> I'm not saying it would have been better or worse for me if both had >> been in focus. It just would have been different. Whether or not >> Steve >> intended it the way it came out, or whether he was handcuffed by the >> Noct's dof , I don't know. But it worked for me. > > Ted provided a spot on critique and and his fine editorial > help...his impression technically I must say, was correct ...a weak > image, and a missed opportunity.. > > others have commented that they find something favorable from this > image, seen from a different perspective, as David Rogers says...... > > I wanted the rear person to be well oof... perhaps less so... but > the interplay between teacher and student (intensivist/resident) > was what I saw, and what I wanted... > > a technical compromise would have been most preferable... > > here is the same image... which I subtily altered... http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/paul+maggie.jpg.html > > I removed the first version because I feel this better shows what I > saw... > > your comments on this image are most appreciated, > > thanks, > > > Steve > > >> daveR >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ted Grant [mailto:tedgrant@shaw.ca] >> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:18 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] ICU images... >> >> Steve Barbour showed: >> Subject: ICU images... >> >> Hi Steve, >>> teaching in the ICU... >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/paul+maggie.jpg.html >> >> As you well know that Noctilux can be a killer beautiful creating and >> capturing piece of glass. Unfortunately the super shallow depth of >> field >> can >> be a killer in reverse! :-) And that's what I feel kills the >> potential >> this >> picture had. >> >> I find the out of focus person a visual disturbance rather than a >> bonus >> of >> two people communicating as the picture illustrates. If he were a >> stop >> or >> two sharper you'd probably have made it. >> >> You have the three main elements of making a good picture.... >> LIGHT-EYES-ACTION! The light is fine, available, no problem. The >> action, >> hands, right on the mark making a point! Unfortunately the out of >> focus >> eyes >> and facial expression of the person at the back kills the whole >> scene. >> :-( >> :-( >> >> Too bad, it's simply a missed moment due to technicalities. :-( These >> can be >> corrected in the future in similar situations. Chalk it up to a >> "LEARNING >> EXPERIENCE!":-( >> >> Look the bottom line in all of this?..... you saw the right moment >> and >> that's far more important than a screwed-up technical thing. Because >> that >> illustrates ....... "you are seeing the right moments!" Besides it's >> far >> more important to have the talent to see motivating moments. Simply >> because >> you wont make the same techie errors in the future due to the mistake >> you >> made here. >> >> Being able to see interesting motivating moments is a basic inherent >> instinct, you either have it or you don't! Yep some of that can be >> learned >> through teaching, working with people who have it and it's picked- >> up or >> learned through osmosis! >> >> You can feel bad all you want, forget it! The truth is the next >> time you >> run >> into this type of depth situation you wont make the same mistake >> again! >> :-) >> There is good that can come from a screw-up, heck who's so perfect he >> hasn't >> ever made a photo error! ;-) >> >> The second picture? Jeeeeeeesh you've produced much much better.:- >> ( I >> find >> the child kind of buried under all the stuff. I'm also influenced >> by the >> better images of situations of this nature you've posted earlier. >> This >> isn't >> completely bad, it's just not a gold ring winning shot! >> >> ted >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >