Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/29

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Subject: [Leica] film vs. digital in my brain.
From: ricc at mindspring.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Fri Sep 29 13:18:42 2006
References: <C142DF60.1624F%bd@bdcolenphoto.com> <4536F55D-2B3C-4FF8-944E-5F772C4F60DD@pandora.be>

Maybe this is all part of dumbing the world down. Producing a more  
pedestrian outlook. Making sure that the average Joe is not offended  
by highbrow intellectuals.

Perhaps the next thing is banning ANY creative thought or angle in  
photographing the news. That does certainly change the way the event  
looked. Perhaps we should all work from a monopod permanently set to  
make sure it shoots from the eye level of the average adult. Of  
course if you work for Weekly Reader, it must be set to the average  
height of a six-year-old.

All parameters must be locked down to assure that the color rendition  
is not varied from reality. We should certainly rule out black and  
white as it glosses over much of the reality of a given news situation.

Art has a place journalism. Always has, always should. Of course our  
country seems real fond of lock-step just now.

Ric Carter
http://gallery.leica-users.org/f/Passing-Fancies


On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Philippe Orlent wrote:

> Tell me: what is the difference between a backlit fireman ladder  
> against a brownish sky with dimmed sun and against an orange sky  
> with brighter sun. Does it make those firemen more heroic? Would  
> they be less heroic against the brownish sky? Would they be less  
> fighting a fire against a brownish sky?
>
>
>
> Op 29-sep-06, om 20:34 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven:
>
>> That depends upon what he "saw" prior to shooting, versus what the  
>> objective
>> visual reality was, doesn't it?
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/06 2:02 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is completely ridiculous. If the man saw the images that way
>>> when he shot them, and it didn't turn out as he had envisioned
>>> photographically, what is worng with this kind of manipulation? It
>>> does not alter the truth, does it?
>>>
>>> Op 29-sep-06, om 12:50 heeft Tina Manley het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> At 11:01 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
>>>>> What was the real story there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I sure didn't get it looking at the photo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ric
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?
>>>> vnu_content_id=1002914629
>>>>
>>>> Patrick had had awards taken away before when he increased the
>>>> contrast in some photos to make them more dramatic.  This time he
>>>> boosted the color to match what he said he remembered but didn't
>>>> capture when he shot into the sun.  None of the changes affected
>>>> the meaning of the photos.  They were all alterations that could
>>>> have been made in the darkroom if he had been shooting film.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP, NPPA
>>>> http://www.tinamanley.com
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] film vs. digital in my brain.)
Message from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) ([Leica] film vs. digital in my brain.)