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Subject: [Leica] Rockport Leica Seminar - M8 Impressions
From: davison_m at msn.com (MARK DAVISON)
Date: Sat Oct 28 20:02:18 2006

Richard Taylor asked:
>Do you see significant differences between the in-camera fine JPGs and 
>images processed in from the DNG files?

What I see in the in camera JPGs is a small amount of artifact in the very 
finest detail of landscape shots.  Also the DNG files have a somewhat 
extended dynamic range, but I didn't test this specifically, so I don't know 
how many stops you get.

Just today I have briefly played with a demo copy of Capture One (from 
www.phaseone.com), and this gives really good color from the Leica M8 DNGs 
without any fiddling.  The noise reduction also seems to be well matched to 
the images.

Mark



>From: "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Rockport Leica Seminar - M8 Impressions
>Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:05:58 -0400
>
>Mark - The detail in that pano shot is amazing.  Having 10MP does make a 
>difference.  I must say though that the images you developed from the DNG 
>files don't look that much different than the JPGs the camera developed of 
>my images.  Makes me wonder if the DNG development effort is worth the 
>effort for any but the most difficult images or greatest enlargements.  Do 
>you see significant differences between the in-camera fine JPGs and images 
>processed in from the DNG files?
>
>I've downloaded Lightroom and just started to play with it.  I'm really 
>interested in seeing if it simplifies the workflow I've developed in PS/CS. 
>  It'll be my introduction to development of DNG files, too.  Mostly I've 
>worked with JPGs.
>
>
>>I also had an opportunity to shoot the M8 for a few hours at Rockport.  My 
>>impressions mostly follow Richard's.  A few additional comments:
>>
>>I have been using Lightroom beta 4 for processing groups of photographs.  
>>I found I had to do a lot of tweaking with the DNG files coming from the 
>>M8, but they do look nice after some work. When I shot DNG + JPG, the JPGs 
>>look quite good, so Lightroom really is not respecting the in camera 
>>processing settings.  I did not have the Leica provided Capture One 
>>converter available to me.
>>
>>I tried using manual exposure on a cold morning, and my stiff finger kept 
>>hitting the on-off switch and turning the camera off when I was trying to 
>>set the shutter speed.
>>
>>Samples can be found at
>>
>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/MarkEDavison/Rockport+M8+samples/
>>
>>These are all jpgs produced from DNG originals via Adobe Lightroom. In a 
>>few cases I had to do further compression via Photoshop CS2 to come in 
>>under the 5 MB limit.  The panorama was quickly stitched together in 
>>Photoshop--there are a few stitching glitches remaining.
>>
>>Overall I find the M8 a marvelous camera.  It is tuned towards very high 
>>resolution rather than noise suppression.  The color and dynamic range 
>>available from the DNG files is very good, but there is a tendency towards 
>>overly magenta shadows in skin tones that I found hard to take out with 
>>Lightroom beta 4.  I've got an M8 on order.
>>
>>Mark Davison
>>
>>
>>
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>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Dick
>
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