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Subject: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Sun Oct 29 15:06:29 2006

Hi Hoppy,

If finally one day I should buy the M8, I think the F2 is necessary and the
best actual choice. Me too, I have carefully choose a lot of things of my
equipment from the second hand market, but always looking at the quality of
the product and of the seller, up to now I've been lucky!

Thanks for your advice

Salud!
Luis

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
G Hopkinson
Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 23:58
Para: 'Leica Users Group'
Asunto: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Luis, the f2 is not very large, just disregarding the hood, it's
considerably shorter, than say the Summicron 50. Its handling is
superb, the focussing a delight and the slides!!!!! I think too on the M8
the internal frame should be very usable. I found that
with my .72 M7 the internal frame is marginal. Especially with the hood
protruding well into the frame.
However the pricing on the new 2.8 28 asph makes it very attractive, for
certain. All of my gear is carefully chosen second hand
though so you have to do your own sums.
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Luis Ripoll
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2006 08:48
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Hi Hoppy,

Cost...? what's that?...

Well, without joking. I think the f2 is more useful, but is bigger and
expensive and I'm not a strong user of the 28mm, I normally use 35 - 75 or
with the 50, for a wide angle I prefer the 21. I have the Tri-Elmar and the
use of the 28 I do is not very hard. For these reasons I think that new
2,8/28mm could be a nice lens for me, and it is compact like the Summicron
or Summilux 35mm, one of the things I appreciate very much on the M is his
compactness. 

Salud!
Luis

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
G Hopkinson
Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 23:30
Para: 'Leica Users Group'
Asunto: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Luis, the current f2 28asph is very compact, too and should be superb on the
M8.
Let's not talk about what they cost!
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Luis Ripoll
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2006 03:42
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Thanks Richard, I've download the manuals and I see that the finder has
plain of LEDS. Yes, I know, I'm so classic!, I love the finder of the MP
with the minimum LED's, the LEDS distracts me.

The 28/2,8 ASPH is attractive for me for it's smaller size.

Saludos desde Barcelona
Luis 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Richard S. Taylor
Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 14:39
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Luis - The flare was just about the same as it is on my M7 with the 
new finder, maybe a bit better.  I did not notice flare at all in 
normal shooting situations and it was only after someone called my 
attention to it that I looked for it and found some in strong 
cross-lighting situations from the left.  The finder is very good.

The finder digital readout looks like the one in the M7.

You can download the instruction manual for the M8 from the Leica 
website if you want more information.

As some one who grew up with Super XX as a fast film, I understand 
what you're saying about film speed.  My first impression is that ISO 
640 will be about the same as current Tri-X and 1250 only slightly 
worse, so that f2.8 28mm ASPH ought to be very useful as a normal 
lens.  It would be interesting to hear what others think about this, 
too, though.

>Hi all,
>
>I've followed with interest all your comments about, first at all I should
>say that I've never used digital, and that I'm not very attracted for it,
>nevertheless the M concept transported to digital could be at least an
>interesting experience.
>
>The first thought I want to explain is that I think that format 4x3 could
be
>perfect for the new users, on my case I've choose my assortment of lenses
>thinking on the use of every one, I would prefer work with the full format.
>Frequently I've choose my lenses attending the compactness over the
quality,
>i.e. Summilux 35 vs. the ASPH, it is some difficult for me think that my
>50's will be 65's etc..., and to have a 35 I should buy the pretty new 28mm
>ASPH, but it is 2,8!, maybe with digital we should think more on the ASA
>capabilities of the digital?...., maybe; as Jeffery says I've started on
>photography with Panatomic and other slow films, on these years when you
>shot with a 27 DIN ---> 400 ASA it was something extreme, actually for me I
>still have this mentality, I very, very rarely  rate a film more than 400
>ASA.
>
>Yesterday I was commenting an e-mail from Alastair telling him that I love
>too very much the quality on B&W of Plus X or APX100 with Summilux 35, IMHO
>you can't obtain the same quality on digital. You probably will obtain a
>very good, even excellent quality, but without the same "touch".
>
>I have two questions about the M8's viewfinder, it is improved as it was on
>the MP and M7 avoiding the flare?, which leeds information is on the
>viewfinder? I've never liked the viewfinders with a lot of leds.
>
>Thanks for your comments
>
>Saludos desde Barcelona
>Luis
>
>
>
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-- 
Regards,

Dick

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