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Subject: NOW: Alienbees vs Brocolor was Re: [Leica] success! but help!
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Fri Nov 3 15:08:54 2006
References: <001f01c6ff9c$1a4999d0$6501a8c0@asus930> <3524897B-D8BD-4555-854A-3FB4971D505F@pandora.be>

BTW: two lovely books about excuisit basic cooking principles with  
great and simple photography (by Tony Le Duc, Belgian and  
internationally renowed food photographer):
(if you understand French): http://www.sensum.be/guide/articles/livre- 
produit.php



Op 4-nov-06, om 00:05 heeft Philippe Orlent het volgende geschreven:

> Yep. Truncated.
> Here's the tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/yhlacj
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> Op 4-nov-06, om 00:02 heeft G Hopkinson het volgende geschreven:
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>> Whoops Philippe, that link (perhaps truncated in the mail?) leads  
>> to a folder with just some software with questionable licencing!
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org  
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
>> Behalf Of
>> Philippe Orlent
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2006 08:44
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: NOW: Alienbees vs Brocolor was Re: [Leica] success!  
>> but help!
>>
>> I do a lot of simple pack shots for certain graphic work this way. PS
>> gives me the latitude I need in that case.
>> Cheap, fast, simple, effective. Perfect for high pace work that needs
>> at least a bit of a 'look'. Tilting the camera (so no real top or
>> front top shot) combined with wide open diafragm give beautiful DOF.
>> A bit as food is shot today. See f.i. http://users.pandora.be/jean-
>> pierre-wybauw/
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 3-nov-06, om 23:29 heeft Walt Johnson het volgende geschreven:
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>>> Where time and money are changing hands I'd be reluctant to count
>>> on Mother Nature. In doing copy work simple but beautiful is no
>>> substitute for even and controlled. The idea would be to select a
>>> good location, set up your camera and lights and be able to
>>> efficiently  repeat yourself  till all is shot. A tripod is very
>>> necessary for this. The shooting situation you mentioned would be
>>> perfect for beautiful and casual images. Love window light.
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about photographing them on a simple sheet of paper next to a
>>>> north facing window on a clouded day? Add a reflection screen on
>>>> the  other side and you'll have simple but beautiful light.
>>>> An incident light meter will give you the proper exposure, and a
>>>> tripod stability if necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Or is this just too easy thinking?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 3-nov-06, om 22:20 heeft Walt Johnson het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>> As has been mentioned, the Broncolors are specially costly. Back
>>>>> in  the eighties I carried a couple of White Lightnings all over
>>>>> the  southeast. Great units.
>>>>>
>>>>> Walt
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never used flash for flat copy work but that doesn't mean
>>>>> it  won't work. Of course, the easy way might be to set them up
>>>>> and use  high watt bulbs for the modeling lights and no flash.
>>>>> Want to make  sure what you see is what you get with this kind of
>>>>> endeavor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Korenman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had no trouble with my 2 alienbess units - an 800 and a
>>>>>> 1600.
>>>>>> Both perform beautifully and were cheap (compared to my Friend
>>>>>> Broncolor
>>>>>> setup).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He (a salty pro) claims there is 'something special' about
>>>>>> broncolor light.
>>>>>> I think he looks down his nose and my cheap and slightly garish
>>>>>> alienbees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any truth to Broncolor light being that 'special'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/3/06, Gary Todoroff <datamaster@northcoastphotos.com>  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dittoes on the White Lightening customer service. Nice folks on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> phone, fast turn-around and perfect repairs!
>>>>>>> Gary Todoroff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as Alien Bees go...they are pretty nice units, but the
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> thing is their customer service.  Paul Buff is about 8 miles
>>>>>>> from my
>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>>> On the times I have had problems they have worked with me to
>>>>>>> get my
>>>>>>>> White Lightnings back up and running very quickly.  Paul gave
>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>> tour one day, nice facility, nice people, GREAT customer
>>>>>>>> service.  There may be better lights out there, but my
>>>>>>> experiences
>>>>>>>> with them are the reason I keep using their products.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Harrison McClary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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In reply to: Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) (NOW: Alienbees vs Brocolor was Re: [Leica] success! but help!)
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