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Subject: [Leica] IMG Don's PAW Week 10 Las Vegas with no glitz
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Thu Mar 15 14:14:44 2007
References: <9b678e0703131825r226919b7r3f4d1d701e22eae0@mail.gmail.com><004f01c7668a$4c485fc0$2101a8c0@luispersonal> <9b678e0703141742gc18a9c3nd8edaa176042e518@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for your answer Don, but I'm not very attracted for the digital way,
even so it's interesting cumulating knowledge.

Saludos cordiales
Luis  

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Don Dory
Enviado el: jueves, 15 de marzo de 2007 1:42
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] IMG Don's PAW Week 10 Las Vegas with no glitz

Luis,
Yes, the Kodak chip in the M8 is not especially clean at ISO's over 320.  It
doesn't especially bother me as I have just recently come from film and
grain over 400 is expected.  However, if it offended me, there are some
pretty sophisticated programs that will eliminate the grain at a not very
large loss of sharpness.  NIK software demonstrated some pretty wonderful
software that allowed a very large degree of control in sharpening and
reducing noise in a very good workflow.

Thanks for commenting.  If you purchased the M8 you would not find the noise
a problem, the choice to keep or remove is there.

On 3/14/07, Luis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
>
> Don, Your work is really excellent, I liked particularly one of your 
> "specialities" the man sleeping in the airport. I think that when you 
> have an M8 on your hands it is very probable you become enthousiastic 
> shooting and shooting, the only point I'm surprised is when I enlarge 
> at full size these pictures I see a lot of grain, well noise, even on 
> your pictures at relatively low speed (ISO640), is this normal?.
>
> I'm sorry for my comment, I'm educated on a maybe too much 
> classical...and ancient education, when I was a young man we shot 
> usually at 18DIN (50ASA), when the 21DIN (100ASA) becomes more popular 
> I still remember my father saying "this is 21 DIN"..., and 400 ASA 
> (27DIN) was something extraordinary, I suppose that many old HCB and 
> others was shoot with speeds between 50ASA and 100ASA, maybe with a 
> digital camera - I have no experience - is too easy work at great 
> speeds, maybe because we haven't any more the use to see the pictures 
> enlarged on a darkroom at 24 x 30 cm or so...and we only see them on 
> our monitors...
>
> I would appreciate your opinion, if one day I go to an M8, this aspect 
> would be a certain handicap for me.
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Luis
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En 
> nombre de Don Dory Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de marzo de 2007 2:26
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: [Leica] IMG Don's PAW Week 10 Las Vegas with no glitz
>
> Hi Gang,
> Last week was an interesting week as I spent the whole time in LV but 
> really didn't find the city very interesting.  Could be the security 
> at the Wynn running me off.  Anyway, let's start with the beginning of 
> the trip in the airport.  I found this kind soul sleeping through 
> several flights coming and going out of this gate.  It is a really 
> long short story about why I spent so much time at this gate:
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+1
> 0/PAW+
> week10a.jpg.html
>
> This next one was from Zabrowski Point in Death Valley with really bad 
> light.  You do what you can.
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+1
> 0/PAW+
> week10b.jpg.html
>
> Actually among the sand in Death Valley.  If you ever go, make it to 
> the sand at daybreak as the peoples tracks will really mess up your 
> shots or you will have to walk a long way over loose sand to find a 
> clean sandbox:
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+1
> 0/PAW+
> week10c.jpg.html
>
> This is the first decent light I had all day in Death Valley:
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+1
> 0/PAW+
> week10d.jpg.html
>
> What can I say, I like abstract designs.
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+1
> 0/PAW+
> week10e.jpg.html
>
> This gent was overly optimistic.  Chatting up a model when her shift 
> doesn't end for five more hours.  Trust me, her feet will hurt more 
> than any desire for dinner or a drink.
>
>
>
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+10/PAW+
> week10f.jpg.html
>
> This last one is a demonstration of why you should always have a camera.
> Medium escalator, notice a lot of commotion, look down, think it is an
> impersonator, realize it isn't, turn the camera on, jam a focus and click.
>
>
>
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/PAW+2007/PAW+Week+10/PAW+
> week10g.jpg.html
>
> Enjoy the evidence of spring if you are Northern, and glory in the end of
> summer and the first twinges of fall in the South.  The M8 is just the
> bomb,
> 700+ frames in a week when most of the time was training or seeing the
> 700+ next
> big thing.  IR is a breeze.
>
> If the price is doable, get in line and get one.  I've been on this list
> quite a while now and this is the first time I have been so enthusiastic
> about hard goods.  I am sorry about the length of the PAW but it is such a
> blast.
>
>
> --
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
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