Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Chris, I can't see any anger in the thread, just a discussion of personal preference. Steve On 18/4/07 21:49, "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote: > I feel guilty when cropping an image for heavens sake, but not moving > things around before taking a shot, if I can. What does it matter either > way? Why should subtle changes in an image provoke such anger? It doesn't > change the reality of whatever the situation is, won't prevent millions > from starvation or murder, not likely to cause millions to be murdered, or > starved. May change our perception about who we think we are. And what's > more important then that these days? Perhaps we have become sensitive to > having our perceptions manipulated. We should all go back and read Edward > Bernaise and Walter Lippman's instructional works on propaganda in a > democracy. > > At 02:48 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote: >> But would you move something in the foreground? Say a cup on a table that >> was cluttering the image. I know I've moved rubbish bins in the past to >> get >> a shot :-), but then I'd never claim to be a documentary shooter, just a >> part time snapper. >> >> Steve >> >> >> On 18/4/07 01:39, "Tina Manley" <images@comporium.net> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> What do you think? Does previsualization mean that the photograph >>> was manipulated subconsciously? I don't think so. I might imagine a >>> photo that I would like to take of a family in Central America, but >>> that would only mean that I would only look for situations to take >>> that photo. I would never move people into position or change >>> circumstances to make the photo happen when it wouldn't have without >>> my being there. Moving people into position or suggesting situations >>> or adding lights or manipulating photographs in the darkroom goes way >>> beyond previsualization, to me, and would not be acceptable for >>> documentary or news photographs. I think many so-called documentary >>> photographs today should be reclassified as art photographs if the >>> situations were manipulated or directed by the photographer. That is >>> not documentary or news photography. >>