Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On May 6, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: > On 5/6/07, Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin@optonline.net> wrote: >> >> I don't know what percentage of the LUG owns M8 cameras but a number >> of Luggers have complained about glitches, inadequacies, and outright >> failures. >> > > --------------------------------------- > > > A number of Luggers complained about glitches with the M7, > M6ttl, M6 > and M5 too, also earlier cameras. . Most of those glitches got > fixed, and > they go on. My own new M6 had no operating film counter out of > the box, > and five years later it failed again. No other problems that I can > remember, but that wasn't even electronic. I took my favorite and trustworthy M7 to Paris... and there had a catastrophic failure/jam... on day 3...of a three week stay... :-( I have not had a problem with my M8 :-) Steve > ---------------------- > > I too would be more than a little pissed if my long awaited >> Leica camera was defective. > > > --------------------- > > > That was the thing that held me back a couple months, and M8less, I > expressed some of the same things you and Walt do, until an M8 user > offered > to let me use his for a month. I did not take him up on that > wonderful > offer, but it made me think about how much he believed in it. So, > I went > ahaed and got the next one available from Newtonville Camera. > -------------------- > > Arbitrarily assuming that 10% of the LUG >> has purchased the M8 and that only a dozen buyers are unsatisfied, >> that's a failure rate of about 6%. Far too great for a $5000 prestige >> camera. > > ------------------------ > The key word here is "Arbitrarily." You base a lot of facts on an > arbitrary > assumption. I would expect more precision from an engineer. In > my work, > you need to cite references. > > I know that there have been problems and glitches, and I'm sorry > that this > shutter fault has occurred to my pal Jeffery, but as I have chased an > answer for him, I cannot find many references to this fault. There > are > others, but it seems to be relatively rare. > > Neither of us have access to worldwide sales, but I'd expect that > the number > of glitches from the total is rather lower than 6%. I can't prove > that, but > then you have no basis for 6%; just a guess. > ------------------------- > > But why so many complaints about a new digital camera when older > Leicas are cherished for their reliability. > ---------------------- > > If they are so reliable, why does DAG, Sherry,Ken Ruth, and Leica > have > such a backlog? > > While you are correct that some of us have had trouble, the lion's > share of > grousing about the M8 and "why it is such a piece of work" comes from > people who don't own it. This is a scenario that is played on every > forum > serving Leica users. Meanwhile, those of us who are using it are > finding > that it shows us the weaknesses of lenses, and our own pilot errors. > > I love my M8 because it has returned me to the point that I control > the > picture, and that's something no digital camera offered me before. > > Even Jeffery loves his, he just wants it to work right, and that is > totally > understandable. I have no question that it will. > > >> >> > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > Natchitoches, Louisiana > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information