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Subject: [Leica] M8 trials and tribulations?
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon May 7 16:02:43 2007

Hoppy,

the cell on the m8 is for flash exposure not aperture calculation.  the 
nikon aperture window works because the aperture ring is right under the 
pentaprism, where the aperture ring on m lenses is way out on the front of 
the lens and the window would not work here.  on the d200 if you have a ais 
lens you will have aperture info, if you program the menue for it.  for 
other lenses it can only tell you how far stopped down you are from wide 
open, not the actual aperture is.

gene

-------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" 
<hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: -------------- 


> Jerry, it is true that there is no mechanical nor electrical connection 
> with the 
> lens to display the aperture. I think 
> understandable and ingenious that this digital remains compatible with 
> almost 
> all M lenses. However the camera does have the sensor 
> on the top plate which assists with estimating the aperture for flash 
> work. I 
> believe that its readout is considered insufficiently 
> reliable for its information to be included in the EXIF. Do you recall the 
> system that Nikon had on its manual focus cameras with 
> the small window that actually showed a view of a smaller copy of the 
> aperture 
> scale, printed on the rear edge of the lens? So I 
> guess it can be done if thought important enough. 
> 
> Cheers 
> Hoppy 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jerry Lehrer 
> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2007 13:07 
> To: Leica Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 trials and tribulations? 
> 
> Frank, 
> 
> If you think you are so smart, can you suggest any POSSIBLE way that the 
> EXIF file could even 
> detect what aperture is used on each photo? Shutter speed , of course. 
> Aperture? NFW! There 
> is no connection 'tween the lens and the M8 body except the RF cam and 
> the fixed bar code. 
> 
> Jerry 
> 
> 
> Ted Grant wrote: 
> > Frank Filippone said: 
> > red735i@earthlink.net 
> > 
> > 
> >>> Also, It's surprising to me that Leica does not include aperture 
> >>> setting 
> >>> 
> > with its data. Or is this something not in the Exif standard (I've just 
> > started paying attention to this).> > 
> > 
> > Frank old buddy I just have to ask, "Why?" 
> > 
> > Like what dose it do to improve your photography and end results when 
> > your 
> > camera goes "click?" 
> > 
> > Given we never had anything like this shooting film and the photography 
> > nearly always looked great! So what's the big deal if it isn't required 
> > shooting film and because it isn't there on a digital it creates some 
> > kind 
> > of concern. 
> > 
> > Please understand, I'm not being a smart ass, I really want to learn 
> > something about digital use that may affect the quality of my 
> > photography. 
> > And if having all this detailed information makes my photographic 
> > content 
> > and captured moment a smashing great photo with it's use, I'd like to 
> > know. 
> > 
> > Thank you, 
> > ted 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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