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Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Films
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Tue May 22 05:06:36 2007
References: <000201c79c54$6dd48a60$0302a8c0@D2QXBC2J>

Hi Chris, as you know the Fuji Neopan 400 is not a C41 process film.
Comparing the true BW emulsions, I think that there is a lot of support on 
the list for Neopan 400 in Xtol 1:1. I'm now officially
an evangelist for that combination, too. That's my choice over the Ilford 
HP5. I have little experience with the Kodak. Just to be
out on left field, I guess, I think that conversion from transparencies 
yields the ultimate BW in relation to smoothness, grain
appearance and tonal range. Other considerations there naturally. Cost, 
convenience, latitude, processing control etc.

Back on the C41 process emulsions, I think that GeeBee is the man to give 
you a qualified opinion (amongst others). Just search his
last 973 posts for fine examples.
Looking at your XP2 samples, the first two look fine to me, maybe the second 
two, as shown on screen here, look a little muddy to my
eye. A lot more to it than just the film's capabilities, of course.
Post another hundred pictures and we all promise to look and give feedback. 
Or I least I can speak for myself there!

Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Films

Hi,

 

Has anyone compared the Kodak, Fuji and Ilford C41 400 ASA films? 

I have been getting good results with the Kodak version and just tried
Ilford's XP2 and Fuji's Neopan. 

Not too sure about the Fuji but the Ilford film looks promising. Here are a
couple of examples:

 

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/crb/barbirolli.jpg.html



http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/crb/graffiti.jpg.html

 

using a Leica IIIf and Summaron 3.5cm f/3.5 (circa 1955).

 

Critical comments welcome.

 

Here are two slightly different versions of a third photograph using the
same combination:

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/crb/avenue_light.jpg.html



http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/crb/avenue_dark.jpg.html



Any preferences between the two?



 

 

Chris 


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