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Subject: [Leica] PAW 26 dlridings
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Tue Jul 3 05:54:09 2007
References: <4688E1D8.3070204@dlridings.se> <46896B2A.8020101@wanadoo.nl> <000001c7bcf3$a620c9f0$6601a8c0@asus930> <4689D71F.9070102@dlridings.se> <000801c7bd4a$e471eed0$6601a8c0@asus930>

Hoppy,
I don't think anybody is still manufacturing a true "Sonnar" design
anymore.  The triplet design with the cemented triplet in the center is a
truly inspired design compromise before lens coating became available.  Most
"Sonnar" designs today are really tessar designs more like the Elmar.  It
used to be that a lens name denoted construction design but that is long
past.

On 7/3/07, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> Daniel, very interesting regarding the silk cord. I recall now reading
> something about the Contax design. It's pretty astounding
> that it is repairable, making a functional shutter. I must read more. I
> recently saw a Leica 111 for sale which had a neat little
> Leicavit type device. That seemed to be driven by a cloth tape. Such an
> elegant little thing.
> My comments on the Sonnar were probably simplistic, given that I was
> looking at the web versions of the original pics. I just had an
> impression of a duller reproduction and of course different flare
> characteristics.
> I have one of the little T3's from Kyocera and that modern Sonnar is
> marvellous.
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing more of whatever you serve up.
> Tomorrow I get back some 300+ frames of good Provia and Velvia from my
> holiday. Can't wait to see them and, I hope, find some worthy
> of posting.
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW 26 dlridings
>
> G Hopkinson wrote:
> >
> > What is the silk cord problem that you referred to with the Kiev body?
> >
>
> Thanks for the remarks, Hoppy. I'll try and get a shot done with the
> Sonnar that you might like. It really does quite well. The film
> combination here (Fomapan 200 + Rodinal) probably doesn't do it justice
> when it comes to tonality.
>
> The silk cord ...
>
> A Kiev is a Contax, not a copy, really, but Arsenal (the factory where
> they were made) got the Zeiss Contax factory after the war. Germans lost
> and it was pay-back time.
>
> The Contax (second version) had a fantastic shutter (the first version
> was junk). Instead of cloth curtains it had metal. Nikon didn't bother
> copying this construction when they brought out their rangefinders. They
> just couldn't get it right. Too difficult.
>
> So the curtains don't break or get pin-holes, but the silk cords that
> pull them and space them do (about once every 30 or 40 years). They just
> need to be replaced.
>
> By the time they need to be replaced, there is also a lot of other
> cleaning that needs to be done. That's where I am.
>
> If you are really, really interested:
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/rpnchbck/replace%20shutter%20ribbons.html
>
> Thanks again,
> Daniel
>
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Don
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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] PAW 26 dlridings)
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