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Subject: [Leica] IMG: David
From: bjq1 at mac.com (Bernard Quinn)
Date: Wed Aug 8 17:48:47 2007
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Hoppy,

This shot was taken in color with my M8 using the new v 1.107  
firmware. I really do think it's noise performance is much better. I  
used Photoshop Elements to remove the color from each of the two  
images which I posted. When I turn color into black and white I  
usually use Photoshop to darken the shadows and lighten the  
highlights. This usually has the effect of making the images look  
"darker". This is what I did to the first image. I didn't do this  
with the second, cropped image. The second version, in plain  
language, has been messed with less than the first. This is probably  
why they look different. The reason I did this was that the goal was  
to remove the darkness on the left side of the image and deliberately  
darkening it seemed counter productive.

I have a question for you. What size images should I post. I usually  
down size them to 690 x 430 pixels before I post them. I am not very  
knowledgeable about these things. If you could give me the right  
numbers I will be more than glad to post images at that size.

Have I come even close to answering your question?

Barney

On Aug 8, 2007, at 7:27 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Philippe and Barney, will you please expand on your comments for  
> discussion?
> I did suggest that Barney try cropping out the dark foreground  
> shadows on the left edge and try a different colour toning of the
> grey.
>
> Barney's second version is greyscale. I can see that it is  
> appreciably lighter.
> Barney might like to tell us whether he has lightened the exposure  
> or if this is happened during conversion. I was saying that I
> thought it looked better "to my eye" meaning in my view, not that  
> the boy's eye was too dark!
>
> Philippe what are your thoughts on the crop to remove the OOF  
> foreground dark areas from the left?
> What about the removal of the background OOF wall decorations?
> What about the toning effect? I just thought that the brown effect  
> was a little too strong for the subject. Very much personal
> taste, I know.
>
> The inquiring Hoppy wants to know and really still admires the  
> photograph that Barney has made.
> Cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: David
>
> I think making the eye a bit lighter was a good move. But throwing
> away the beautiful tones and contrasts of the initial shot, is a bit
> too much, IMO.
> Thanks for showing,
> Philippe
>
>
>
> Op 7-aug-07, om 03:57 heeft G Hopkinson het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Barnie, for my eye that is quite an improvement. Exactly what I had
>> in mind, anyway. A lovely print in there, no doubt.
>> Now just to persuade you to post the originals a little larger to
>> the gallery so that we can see as displayed or a larger version.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: David
>>
>>
>> Hoppy,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. I think that you are spot on. Is this what
>> you had it mind?
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Barney/David_2.jpg.html
>
>>
>> I am glad that you liked the orchid picture. I swear that this is the
>> way that it came off the sensor with one tiny exception. It had a bug
>> on it which I spotted out.
>>
>> Barney
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:14 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> Barney, it's a grand photo as well. David's concentration is very
>>> well lit.
>>> I might be tempted to try a crop to remove the darker areas to the
>>> left? and maybe a less brown toning? Entirely personal taste, of
>>> course, just my 02 cents.
>>> Also got to look at that lovely orchid in your gallery again. Very
>>> very smooth.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Hoppy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: David
>>>
>>>
>>> The grand kids come to visit this afternoon. Here is my grand son
>>> David learning how to make ice cream. The answer to the important
>>> question is Oreo cookie with vanilla.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Barney/David.jpg.html
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments and Criticisms welcome.
>>>
>>> Barney
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: David)
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Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: David)
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