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Subject: [Leica] IMG: the episode in which Hoppy becomes a criminal
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu Apr 24 05:56:18 2008
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On Apr 23, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Henning Wulff wrote:

> At 6:37 PM -0700 4/23/08, Steve Barbour wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>
>>> At 08:33 PM 4/23/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> so the coding has nothing to do with outcome or photo quality, just
>>>> puts the lens into the exif...is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> I read somewhere - I can't find it now - that the coding would  
>>> optimize the performance of the lens - addressing known vignetting  
>>> and color balance issue, particularly with wide angle lenses.
>>
>>
>> rings a bell for me too Tina, but is this true ?!
>>
>> Somehow I wonder if it turned out to be speculation.
>>
>>
>> Steve
>
> The coding provides vignetting correction for most lenses, but this  
> is of course more important for wide angle lenses. For lenses  
> shorter than 35, coding is definitely of benefit as it corrects for  
> the 'cyan corners' caused by the steep incoming angles of light  
> which causes 'frequency shifting' on lenses equipped with the UV/IR  
> cut filters.


so it appears that the problem and therefore the coding benefit is  
seen with color, and only with UV/IR filters...

Is this cited somewhere in Leica's technical support as I searched  
without success.


Steve
>
>
> The filters are interference filters, and do their job by the  
> interference of reflected radiation within the coating layers of the  
> objectionable wavelengths. When the angle gets steeper, the  
> incorrect wavelengths get cut; in this case the deeper red and not  
> just the IR wavelengths, therefore the cyan colour.
>
> If the camera knows the lens characteristics, it can do some pre- 
> processing on raw as well as jpeg files and counteract this  
> undesirable effect, and give consistent colour response across the  
> whole frame. The Wide Angle Tri-Elmar would be unusable with an IR/ 
> UV cut filter without such coding.
>
> The EXIF data on lens and focal length is just a side benefit of  
> this. Vignetting is also easy to correct in software if desired.
>
> I wouldn't bother sending perfectly functioning lenses in to get  
> coded if it weren't for this correction that the camera does. I have  
> a 28 Summicron where the cyan corners are just detectable, so I will  
> send in the lens at some point, but 35 and longer won't get sent in.
>
> -- 
>   *            Henning J. Wulff
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best, Steve


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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: the episode in which Hoppy becomes a criminal)
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