Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/06/17

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Subject: [Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W
From: leowesson at gmail.com (leo wesson)
Date: Tue Jun 17 16:04:09 2008
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I have to pipe in here with a comment about IR filters.  They solve certain
problems but I find that they degrade the image quality significantly if
there is a window or light source due to that good old problem, flare, which
isn't a problem with leica/cv glass if you aren't using filters.  I also
find them to be way too fragile for my liking, I'm noticing haze and
scratches after only about 3 or 4 months.  I find myself not using them at
all these days and consequently not using my m8 if there is a situation
where I would get that unpleasant purple black nonsense.

leo



On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com>
wrote:

> thanks for the clarifying metaphor.
> when filters are used in front of the sensor/lens the buckets will hold
> different data than unfiltered data.
> got it makes sense.
> quite the same as film.
> if the data isn't there you can't put it there later.
>
> Fond regards,
> George
> george@imagist.com
> www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Henning Wulff wrote:
>
>  The basic point is that the spectral information is divided into three
>> classes, R, G and B and collected in buckets. After that there are only
>> limited means of separating the photons (and translated charge values) and
>> their qualities into their smaller divisions, and that only by comparing
>> what's in one bucket to what's in the adjacent buckets. Software/firmware
>> can do no more. Putting filters in front of the lens whether IR cut or red
>> makes the sorting of information by software a lot easier, as certain
>> variables get reduced in value.
>>
>>
>
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Leo Wesson
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