[Leica] Another Door Closed to Photography

[kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)]

On Jul 12, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Alastair Firkin wrote:

> Ted, we live with unreasoned paranoia: perhaps it will be up to non- 
> pros and the Nokia carrying set to document the next 10 years. Your  
> comments are very disturbing, and I have no idea what they are  
> trying to protect.


themselves...


>
>
> --- tedgrant@shaw.ca wrote:
>
> From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Another Door Closed to Photography
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:59:06 -0700
>
> Hell another door closed to photography?
>
> You guys don't have any idea how bad it is in documentary  
> photography of the
> world around us even when we're shooting the wonderful people who do
> everything there is possible to help the down trodden, helpless, ill  
> and
> sick!!
>
> Not long ago I shot two wonderful books about doctors, nurses and care
> givers doing their thing in helping folks survive to a better life,  
> whatever
> the illness or repair job.
>
> I recently started to do a new level of what I considered to be the  
> next
> generation of these same people. Seemed simple enough, "take  
> pictures of
> them learning their skills to help the ill and less unfortunate."
>
> GUESS WHAT?
>
> I was required to ask each and everyone of these "students if they  
> wanted to
> have their pictures taken? While learning how to be helpful to human  
> kind?"
> Did I have their signed permission in writing? And without question,  
> what
> was the final use of the photography and did I have permission of  
> everyone.
> including the unconscious patient whom you couldn't see in any shape  
> or form
> other than a "lump on the table" permission? Their mothers wouldn't  
> know who
> it was!!!
>
> Here I am a photojournalist with more than a half century experience  
> and a
> photo collection in the National Archives of Canada of 280,000  
> images in a
> collection of how "we lived and survived the world about us" all in  
> a manner
> of real life as it was possible under the circumstance.
>
> TODAY?
>
> Damn Mickey mouse worry warts who are more concerned about their  
> asses,
> jobs, and insurance litigation than illustrating what life is truly  
> like in
> absolute honest injun what it's really like image of today! Who to  
> blame?
>
> I don't know and quite frankly I have come to a point where I don't  
> really
> care! Nor give a damn! The losers?
>
> The people of the future! Those who could learn what it was like as we
> learned what our forefathers and foremothers went through during  
> their and
> our earlier times.
>
> It truly is a shame because of, in most cases some mickey mouse two  
> bit ass
> hole moron who wants to make money, trouble or has caused trouble  
> over a
> nothing event.
>
> We as real photojournalists are being straddled with this crap of  
> paper work
> and litigation while documenting the world of today simply because  
> of people
> who figure they can make "money" through a lawyer!
>
> Sorry I sound like I'm pissed off! I am! Damn real world of today!!!!!
>
> ted
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Lottermoser George
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:52 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another Door Closed to Photography
>
>
>
> We (at least the younger among us) may very well see the day
>
> when street photographers will require a permit and show just cause.
>
>
>
> One's only hope in these times is to hone one's people skills
>
> and develop trusting relationships in those places we wish apply or
>
> craft.
>
>
>
> 'tis a very sad time.
>
>
>
> I know one very fine photographer who's given up the craft due to
>
> lack of access
>
> various harassments by official and pseudo-official individuals, as
>
> well as many state and national parks now requiring permits (if
>
> you're a professional).
>
>
>
> Fond regards,
>
> George
>
>
>
> george@imagist.com
>
> http://www.imagist.com
>
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>
>
>
>> LUGGERS,
>
>>
>
>> I dropped by our local Burger King tonight to grab some sandwiches
>
>> and noticed a new sticker on both the outside and inside of the
>
>> entry door.  It said, "No Videotaping or Photography Permitted".
>
>> This was apparently added recently.  While I have never seen an
>
>> occasion necessitating photographs there, I suspect it is posted
>
>> because they have a separate play area for small children, and
>
>> parents are getting very sensitive about photos of their kids.
>
>>
>
>> Jim Nichols
>
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
>>
>
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