Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/07/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yep Thanks Geoff knew that was interested if he felt he had a working wide angle or not as in had he tried it shooting as he's about to go on a trip and it was he was saying Leica had left him in the lurch on his first time out with the company. mark@rabinergroup.com Mark William Rabiner > From: Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:57 +1000 > To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> > Subject: RE: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200... Now defective 21 > Elmarit > > Mark, the issue is that the camera requires both a specific frame-lines and > the 6 bit coding to be present for the firmware to recognise the lens > fitted > and apply vignette correction in the firmware. There is also an effect if > you use the UV/IR filter. For a 21mm lens the 28 framelines should be > called > up. The same happens with the 16-18-21 lens. > This is needed for the firmware to recognise the lens, even though those > frame-lines are not actually used for framing. However the net effect is > simply that the lens acts as an un-coded lens and you don't use that > firmware correction. In other words it still works fine, you just don't get > 6 bit functions. My 21 & 18 are non-Leica and it works the same way. Zeiss > have actually now corrected that in current production so that you can have > the coding added aftermarket (not by Leica). > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200... Now defective 21 Elmarit > > Not real clear as it if when you put your 21mm lens on your m8 what the > picture looks like when you take it. > Is not not usable? > You cant figure out which finder to use on the hotshoe? > Are the corners off color? > > > > mark@rabinergroup.com > Mark William Rabiner > > > >> From: <grduprey@mchsi.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:41:03 +0000 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200... Now defective 21 > Elmarit >> >> Geoff, >> >> Yes, it is a 6 bit lens, and I have tried all the fitting and cleaning >> possibilities. I also have the 28 Elmarit Asph lens which works just fine > and >> brings up the lens info on the M8. The Dealer is in California and had > only >> the one lens when I bought it. I did not realize there was a problem > until I >> was 2 states away in New Mexico. ;-( Dave at Leica NJ told me they could >> probably gety it fixed and back to me before I leave for Europe, but at > this >> late date, I'm not sure I want to take a chance, as I bought it so I would >> have it for the trip. I do not have a IR filter so it works just fine for >> now. I will be in Germany on the trip, so I may just stop by Solms and > see if >> they can fix it while I wait.;-) Otherwise I can wait until I get back > from >> the trip to get it fixed. I'm in Texas right now, and the dealer in > Dallas >> does not have one either, Just my Luck. >> >> The real downer, it that this is the first Leica product I have bought and > it >> does not work 100% as it is supposed to. If I was a pro like tina and had > a >> pro card, I would feel more secure that they would have it back here > before I >> left, but that is not an option. ;-) >> >> Gene >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> >>> >>> Gene that is very strange indeed. >>> I assume that your 21 is a 6 bit model? If it's new can you exchange it > with >>> your dealer or try another example on there? Ty your lens on another M8? >>> Have you investigated any other possible factors? For example is the 6 > bit >>> sensor clean? Are the pits in the lens clean? >>> Have you tried wiggling the lens when mounted? Please keep us informed > and >>> good luck getting it sorted out quickly. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200... Now defective 21 > Elmarit >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> No, there are no frame lines for the 21 on the M8 or any other M that I > know >>> of. However, Dave told me the 21 should call up the 28/90 frame lines to >>> work properly for lens ID. Mine calls up the 24/35 frames, and the ID > does >>> not work, however if I manually select the 28/90 frames it records the > lens >>> as a 21 mm lens, so the mount needs to be fixed/replaced so it selects > the >>> 28/90 frames. >>> >>> Gene >>> >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa@yahoo.com> >>>> >>>> Gene, >>>> Are there framelines for the 21 on the M8 or are you referring to > another >>> body? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob (who would love to have frame lines for the 21 on an M8!!) >>>> >>>> ?Bob Adler >>>> Palo Alto, CA >>>> http://www.raflexions.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: "grduprey@mchsi.com" <grduprey@mchsi.com> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:35:50 PM >>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200... Now defective 21 >>> Elmarit >>>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> Well, I would probably go for a M8 in that price range.? ;-)? Now if > only >>> my new >>>> 21 Elmarit M Asph was as trouble free as my M8 has been...? The lens > does >>> not >>>> bring up the correct frame lines and therefore the lens detection does > not >>> work.? >>>> ;-(? If I manually select the correct frames, then the detection does >>> work.? I >>>> talked to Dale Elwell at Leica NJ and he tells me they should be able to >>> fix it >>>> before I leave on Aug 9 for Europe, but with the trouble people have had >>> this >>>> past year or so with long repair times, I think I will just wait until I >>> get >>>> back and then send it in.? I don't want to take the chance of it not > being >>> back >>>> by the time I leave.? I did write a letter that I sent in with the >>> warranty card >>>> so they know it was defective out of the box.? Otherwise I really like > the >>> >>>> results so far. >>>> >>>> Gene >>>> >>>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>>> From: Richard Man <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> >>>>> >>>>> I didn't say all owners will do that :-) >>>>> >>>>> A small number of used M8s already appears for ~$3900. And as I said, >>>>> M6 went from ~$2000 to $1200 when the M7 was released and M7 went >>>>> through a drop also when the M8 was released. So it stands to reason >>>>> the trend would continue. >>>>> >>>>> Would I bet on $3200? No, but I think it would be safe to say it will >>>>> hit $3500-$3600. I don't think the market will be flooded, just a few >>>>> M8 owners will want to upgrade.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 04:14 PM 7/20/2008, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote: >>>>>> Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> What makes you think us M8 owners will unload our wonderfull image >>> makers? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. 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