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Subject: [Leica] What's available
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Thu Aug 28 08:19:09 2008
References: <726g32$lsq3e@pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>

Well put, Ted. There is no way using a flash could preserve the image  
and the mood of the moment. Tina's photo is wonderful.

Len


On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Ted Grant wrote:

> Geoff Hopkinson  explained :
> Subject: RE: [Leica] What's available
>
>
>
>>>> I don't see where any confusion comes from. Ted is praising  
>>>> Tina's use of
> the available light and saying that some less talented photogs  
> might use
> flash instead and ruin the shot.<<
>
>
>
> Hi Geoff
>
> Thanks for making it clear what my comment was about, as only a  
> fool would
> ever suggest Tina use a flash in her use of the magic she does with  
> a camera
> and available existing light!
>
>
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Unfortunately you missed the first posting as I wasn't alluding to  
> using
> flash on Tina's beautiful example of seeing and appreciating the  
> effects of
> a candle lit scene.
>
> My point was, she used what was motivating her to shoot.. "the  
> LIGHT on the
> subject as seen!"  Creating a very beautiful moment by existing light.
>
> Then pointed out there are so called photographers.. Who would  
> destroy the
> scene by using a twinkie light simply because they don't have the  
> brains to
> read, recognize and understand the effects of light as we see it.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> If not, Hoppy please correct me. :-) Thanks old buddy! :-)
>
> ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Robert Meier  
> <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote:
>
>> Ted,
>
>>
>
>> Did someone suggest Tina should have used a flash?   Did I miss  
>> something?
>
>>
>
>
>
>> Robert
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>> Hi Tina,
>
>>>
>
>>> Classic girl. Classic!
>
>>>
>
>>> One of the truly great lenses of Leica is the Noctilux! Man at  
>>> f1.0 you
>
>>> don't shoot by "available light", you shoot by available  
>>> darkness! :-)
>
>>>
>
>>> Through out my career I used the light illuminating the subject  
>>> as much
>
> as
>
>>> possible simply because that is what we see the subject by. Did I  
>>> blow a
>
>>> frame or three? Yep and I'm the first to admit it, only because  
>>> sometimes
>
>>> I
>
>>> did really push my luck on many occasions. But if you don't try,  
>>> you'll
>
>>> never learn how to make it work!
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Then some fool would come along and blink a Twinkie light and  
>>> completely
>
>>> destroy what the motivating light was all about!
>
>>>
>
>>> Heck they still do it today simply because so many "so called
>
>>> photographers"
>
>>> are absolutely clueless when it comes to the value of light and  
>>> how it
>
>>> motivates us to see the subject.
>
>>>
>
>>> This photo of yours is truly classic by light motivational  
>>> standards. I
>
>>> can't imagine anyone seeing this then blasting a twinkie light  
>>> completely
>
>>> destroying the visual effect.
>
>>>
>
>>> However, there are dimwits out there who'd say, "Oh but it's not  
>>> bright
>
>>> enough for me to stop down to f8.0 so I have to use my flash!"
>
>>>
>
>>> Aaaaahhh!!! KILL!! Then they have the audacity to call themselves
>
>>> photographers! Shame!
>
>>>
>
>>> Great photo dear lady thank you for posting.
>
>>>
>
>>> ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
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