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Subject: [Leica] M-lenses on M8
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue Dec 9 16:26:36 2008
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20081208222311.02812ea0@mail.threshinc.com>

Thanks for showing Peter, great demonstration of the qualities, I hope  
when I finallt?y decide go to M8's... my Summicron Rigid gave the same  
quality, after what I read from Putts optically are the same.

Saludos cordiales
Lluis


El 09/12/2008, a las 8:17, Peter Klein escribi?:

> Seth:
>
> Great to see you here.  I can likewise vouch for the Rigid on the  
> M8.  I have a DR, which as you know is the same lens.  After some  
> hemming and hawing, I had DAG grind down the close-focus part of the  
> cam so I could use it on the M8.  No regrets--it has the same "it"  
> quality on the M8 that it did on film:  Smooth transitions, very  
> nice fine detail, and a little bleed of bright highlights into  
> adjacent dark areas that gave a little "glow" to the proceedings.
>
> On the M8, 50mm has a marked short telephoto quality, but I find  
> myself using it fairly often. Here are a few DR/M8 shots:
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004685-w.jpg.html>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004642Crop-w.jpg.html 
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004637-w.jpg.html>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004636-w.jpg.html>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004621JimGreenGesture-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004626Darkside-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004596StretchBW-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004603ChowShibaBW-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004593TheaterBW-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004594PinknBlue-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
>
> And as with film, you'll usually want to keep bright light sources  
> out of the frame  :-)
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004610Crabby-w.jpg.html
>  
> >
>
> I have a 90mm Elmarit, but on the M8 I've only shot test pictures of  
> soup cans and cereal boxes with it to test focus.  They look about  
> like what it looked like on film--a bit dreamy at f/2.8, nice  
> portrait quality at f/4, and tack-sharp at f/8.
>
> From what I've heard, 90mm lenses are the most difficult to get  
> right on the M8.  The M8's tighter tolerances are amplified by the  
> relatively long focal length. My 90mm Elmarit's focus is  
> significantly off on the M8. For outdoors, I have been using a CV  
> 90/3.5 Lanthar that focuses perfectly.  On the M8, a 90 is more like  
> a 135mm is with film.  It's great for distant scenics, but for 4-15  
> feet away, you might find a 50 or a 75 more to your liking.
>
> I have no experience with the 35/2.8 Summaron.
>
> I believe you are, like me, a 50mm kind of guy with film, so you may  
> find that you are a 35mm kind of guy with the M8.  If that's the  
> case, you might want to pick up a non-aspheric 35mm Summicron. That  
> might very well become your normal lens on the M8, if as Len says,  
> the Summaron doesn't have quite enough contrast.
>
> Hope this helps.
> --"Major General" Peter
>
> At 02:44 PM 12/8/2008 -0800, Leonard wrote:
>> You will love the 50/2 rigid Summicron on the M8. While it is lower
>> in contrast then the Summilux Asph for instance, I find it's very
>> smooth and detailed. Photos taken with it are wonderful. There are a
>> few on list that use it all the time.
>>
>> I can't speak of the 35/2.8 Summaron but I did test two very clean
>> 3.5 versions (LTM and M version with goggles) just yesterday. The M8
>> brutally shows their very low contrast. They can be made to look fair
>> by using the auto levels feature in Photoshop but without
>> manipulation I wouldn't use them.
>>
>> I have never used the other two lenses.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>>
>> > Hello friends,
>> >
>> > What a coincidentally useful time to return LUG-wise! I'm finally
>> > considering an M8 or M8.2; would wish to use 35/2,8 Summaron, 50/2
>> > Rigid Summicron, 25/4 CV Skopar and 90,2,8 Elmarit (the 5-glass
>> > 1958 rendition). Any comments/opinions on good or bad imaging with
>> > any of these on an M8? Thanks.
>> >
>> > Best to all,
>> >
>> > Seth
>
>
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Replies: Reply from sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8)
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