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Subject: [Leica] Re: Summaron
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu Dec 11 21:38:17 2008

Funny as usually when I hear the term "collectors lens" its referring to a
lens made in small amounts; hard to obtain. Pricy. Which describes not the
3.5 but the 2.8.

The 3.5 seems to be in use by half the people on the list who have been
posting the results.
This does not sound like collecting.
We've not seen anything taken from a 2.8!
Are they in a vault!???



mark@rabinergroup.com
Mark William Rabiner



> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:53:52 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Summaron
> 
> Larry, I'm afraid this is just wrong. The only similarities between the 2,8
> and 3,5 Summarons is that both have six glasses (elements) and both were
> produced by Leitz.  :-)   The contrast difference is very significant. Put
> their images side-by-side and there is no comparison. The degree of
> improvement lessens slightly as the lenses are stopped down. Not the least
> of the reasons for the dramatic improvement in optical performance of the
> 2,8 is the introduction of Leitz' new lanthanum glass (LaK9) that so
> dramatically improved the contrast and resolution across the image of the
> 1956 Rigid and DR Summicrons. I understand Mark's reasons for staying with
> the 3,5 - it produces images he likes and is very economical - but candidly
> the 3,5 is only a collector's lens today.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Seth
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
> Cc: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:54 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Re: Summaron
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Len wrote:
>> 
>>> After you
>>> mentioned the 2.8 Summaron I went searching the web for it. Yup it's
>>> gotten up there in price.
>> 
>> 
>> Len,
>> 
>> You might try looking for an f3.5 Summaron. As I understand it, the
>> F2.8 Summaron is identical to the F3.5 model with the diaphragm
>> adjusted to open half a stop wider. The price might be a bit lower if
>> you don't need that extra half stop. I have one of these with the
>> eyeglass finder for the M3 and it has been quite satisfactory.
>> 
>> Larry Z
>> 
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