Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21

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Subject: [Leica] un-believable
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sun Dec 21 17:39:12 2008
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Dante, the point of my comment was the quality disparity; for the large 
majority of Leica users, quality, in whatever terms one chooses, defines 
their perceived photographic needs.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dante Stella" <dstella1@ameritech.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable


> Seth,
>
> I've owned an M8 for close to two years and do 90% of my digital
> shooting with it.  It suits my needs, but it's no surprise to me that
> - like an under-featured car - it does not attract many converts in a
> market driven largely by features.  If you have some product knowledge
> that would change my perspective, I'll listen.
>
> Dante
>
> On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>
>> Dante, with great respect, you utterly disqualify your comment and
>> reveal your lack of knowledge of product by equating the Leica M8 to
>> an (obsolete) Honda Civic. What rubbish.
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dante Stella" <dstella1@ameritech.net
>> >
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable
>>
>>
>>> I don't even think Leica is even in the same class the US auto
>>> industry - which has as good technology as anyone's but has been
>>> struggling mightily with product mix and cost-effective production.
>>> More importantly, the prices are not out of scale.  Leica, on the
>>> other hand, doesn't even have the technology - and unless you believe
>>> that having Germans assemble it is worth a ton of money,* the prices
>>> are way out of line.  The equivalent of an M8 in the automotive world
>>> would be building a 1997 Civic and selling it today for $60,000.
>>>
>>> Dante
>>>
>>> *Assuming Solms and not Portugal does the work.
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think it's unbelievable, I think it's hilarious for the
>>>> cult-ish status symbol. I love Leica's products (the ones I own)
>>>> but I
>>>> also think that they, like the US auto industry, are desperate due
>>>> to
>>>> lack of innovation and foresight. My M4 will be working long after
>>>> Leica is gone and my lenses will as well. I'm happy with that for
>>>> now.
>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>
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