Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/17

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Found on e-Bay
From: clzeni at (Craig Zeni)
Date: Sat Jan 17 15:13:49 2009
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Posting a link and hotlinking (as the Ebay seller did) are two  
different things.  Clicking on a link is optional; hotlinking means  
that anybody who opened that auction listing is going to be using the  
bandwidth and images that belong to somebody else.  It is splitting  
hairs, but it's an important difference.  I see now that the seller  
has changed his page and there is now a link posted instead of  
hotlinking.  This is better etiquette...yes I'm a bit of an Internet  
luddite but oh well :)

Nawth Cacalacky

On Jan 17, 2009, at 3:48 PM, wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:48:51 -0800 (PST)
> From: "H. Ball Arche" <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> To: Leica Users Group <>
> Message-ID: <>
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> Just for the sake of chewing on this bolus a little bit more, I  
> wonder if it occurred to Lluis to ask permission from ebay when he  
> posted a link to their site in his letter here, or to ask the  
> seller whose listing it is? If he is like me, I'm sure he did it  
> without giving it a second thought, as have many of us here.
> Without descending into hair-splitting legalistic weasel words  
> please, does anyone care to defend the position that what is OK for  
> Luis to do is wrong for somebody else? (Nothing personal Lluis -  
> like I said, I've done it too).
> On re-reading the listing, I think the seller was wrong not to make  
> it more clear that Lluis's photo's were not taken with the lens on  
> auction. And yes, it would have been polite to at least give Lluis  
> credit.
> Beyond that, I agree with what Doug was getting at, which is that  
> if you want to keep a proprietary relationship to the stuff you put  
> up on the web, its up to you to exert ownership through water- 
> marking, encryption, password protection, or whatever. Facts of  
> life, folks.
> Otherwise you're making information freely available and you can't  
> let your feelings get hurt when somebody else makes free use of it  
> - you should expect it.
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lluis Ripoll <> wrote:
>> From: Lluis Ripoll <>
>> Subject: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <>
>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 3:25 PM
>> Hi all,
>> I've saw this on e-bay, a Cooke Amotal like mine:
>> On the advertising it is a link showing the pictures with
>> this lens, I saw it... and this is my Gallery with this
>> lens!, please look at "Please visit this link..."
>> What do you think? it is correct ?
>> Of course internet is a open window to the world...., but I
>> didn't expect this...
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis

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